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Hi all; We are currently investigating the possibility of using two columns in line, connected with a press fit connector, to determine volatile and semi volatile components. I have heard of GC*GC but I think it requires special software and a modulator. If i go ahead and juct connect two columns together what benefits and what problems should i expect? To be more specific the idea is to connect a non polar with a wax column to get better separation say 10 m of non polar and 30 meters of wax. I think usually people use the modulator to focus the analytes at the end of the first column and get sharper peaks. Can i do without the modulator. in our system we have a valco valve. Could i usilise the valve to focus the analytes?Could you recomend a couple of papers for some reading. all the papers that i found so far use the modulator.
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To do GCxGC (comprehensive GC) you have to have a modulator between the columns.
With just a connector between the columns you can fine tune the slectivity of the separation by: changing the length of each column, the film thickness of each column, the flow rate or the temperature programme.
If you have a selectivity problem, samples that are consistent in their composition, and a fair bit of time for method development, coupling two columns can be a straighforward way of setting up a standard method for getting peaks separated. Before you go that route I would check all the column manufacturers web sites to make sure that they do not already make a column that can do the separation that you are looking for.
Most of the work on series couple columns was done pre-internet publishing, but you can chexk out, and follow the trail back:
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi- ... 1&SRETRY=0
http://www.lcgceurope.com/lcgceurope/da ... rticle.pdf
Good luck
Peter
With just a connector between the columns you can fine tune the slectivity of the separation by: changing the length of each column, the film thickness of each column, the flow rate or the temperature programme.
If you have a selectivity problem, samples that are consistent in their composition, and a fair bit of time for method development, coupling two columns can be a straighforward way of setting up a standard method for getting peaks separated. Before you go that route I would check all the column manufacturers web sites to make sure that they do not already make a column that can do the separation that you are looking for.
Most of the work on series couple columns was done pre-internet publishing, but you can chexk out, and follow the trail back:
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi- ... 1&SRETRY=0
http://www.lcgceurope.com/lcgceurope/da ... rticle.pdf
Good luck
Peter
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Peter,
Hi, thank you for posting these links as it looks like something I want to try as well (as we were 'discussing' a fortnight ago. I cannot open the first link though, can you please repost it?
Thanks,
Salma
Hi, thank you for posting these links as it looks like something I want to try as well (as we were 'discussing' a fortnight ago. I cannot open the first link though, can you please repost it?
Thanks,
Salma
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Hi
Sorry about the link - I cannot open it now either.
Try a Google (or similar) search using "gas chromatography", "series coupled", "selectivity tuning" and similar. If you have Science Direct or Ebsco or a simialr scientific search engine you could try them too, but a lot of the literature is from the very early days of GC and it is over the search horizon for some of the databases.
Good luck
Peter
Sorry about the link - I cannot open it now either.
Try a Google (or similar) search using "gas chromatography", "series coupled", "selectivity tuning" and similar. If you have Science Direct or Ebsco or a simialr scientific search engine you could try them too, but a lot of the literature is from the very early days of GC and it is over the search horizon for some of the databases.
Good luck
Peter
Peter Apps
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