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Good Afternoon Chromatographers,

It's been a while because I'm now doing product development and process troubleshooting rather than LC all the time, but I'm back and have an interesting situation with a Waters 2996 PDA:

Until recently, this old beast was stone reliable and has been maintained either by Waters or me for its entire life. As far as I can determine, it's a converted 996 based upon the circa 1992 power supply that's living in an instrument with a circa 2003 serial number.

Anyway, I am seeing short duration negative peaks in the baseline that I believe to be detector related because they occur regardless of whether there is any flow through the instrument at all. All instrument diagnostics pass - I tried to 'run-to-failure' overnight to no avail. Lamp energy is fine - 28-30K, depending on the lamp installed and it does it after I swap lamps. Communication cables between the instrument and the data system are fine - swapping in a second PDA on the same cables gives no problems.

One interesting thing it does occasionally is it appears to shut off the lamp upon making an injection. This is fairly rare, but more common when the instrument is acting up as previously described. What it does is this: Prior to making the injection, both the status and lamp indicators are lit as normal, but upon making the injection the lamp indicator will flash and it's quite clear that the instrument is blind. Stopping the injection and going back to monitor baseline will reset things and the detector will see again. Turning the instrument off and allowing it to cool for a few hours seems to alleviate things as well.

It smells like an electrical issue to me.

What I'm thinking is this: The 24 year old power supply might not be supplying steady enough voltage to the lamp and on a dip that's strong enough, it's actually shutting things down momentarily.

My question: Does anyone know how to check the output voltage on one of these power supplies? Which of the four pins on the lamp plug are the ones to measure? I'm assuming black is ground, blue to supply firing voltage, and red to run (that's where the lamp timer used to be), but I'm guessing.

If there's any wisdom here for this, I'd appreciate it. If not, I'll just swap in another power supply and see what I get. I suppose I could back date the thing to a 996 as I have one of those with a bad optical bench.
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Run it w/ the cover off. Is there a cooling fan? If so, is it working consistently? Check its connectors. If not this, you probably need a power supply and/or main board.

The voltages are all easy enough to get to and check, but you need to find specs...
Thanks,
DR
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The cooling fan was one of the first things I checked and it runs perfectly. Any information that there is to be had there would be appreciated. I'm not desperate, but this has been a really nice machine and I'd like to keep her going, at least for the time being. Being back at a startup company is an absolute blast, but I have to keep tings going with a very sharp eye on finances!
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Hi

just some thoughts.
is there any battery/accu on the mainboard? maybe this is getting used up too.

The battery on the board of the Alliance is changed annualy if under contract, because they found out, that the pump is relying on a ceratain reference voltage from this battery. Otherwise pulsation may occur...
Maybe it's something similar here.

what about a shutter problem? if it won't open after the autozero?
can you opticaly check what is happening to the lamp when the status LEDs are going off. Is the lamp still lit or really off? (normaly you can observe if lamp is on when looking at the mounted bulp).
Thank you for the thoughts!

Unfortunately there is no battery on the main board, so that's out. Also, the shutter in the 2996 is quite audible and I've not heard it click when the instrument goes blind. I don't think the shutter is causing my negative peaks because they're only ~0.10 AU in amplitude (across all wavelengths) and the instrument is silent regardless of whether it's having an episode or not. I could likely see whether or not the lamp is lit - I discovered last night that the 2996 has done away with the sensor for the lamp door that was in the 996. If it does it again, I'll check and let you know.

I'm going to pull a power supply that's known to be good from another instrument I have for parts and see what I get.
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