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New active compound, how to develop analytical methods?

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Hello, im just wondering if i receive a new API and am told to develop test methods for quantitation of the active and the related substances of that compound ...how would i go about this? i think i would do it like this...am i correct?
1. determine potential polarity by looking a its structure maybe run a quick TLC
2. on the basis of this information and with some solubility studys run it on LC-MS....identify active peak which will be largest peak and say there is maybe 3% impurties....so method development here...achieve adequate seperation.
3. with the identifaction of impurties and assignment of structure would i then move the method to HPLC?
could i do hplc prep work,TLC prep work or fractionation with column chromatography to collect isolated impurties and then develop HPLC assay method and related substances method? which could be introduced to QC.If you guys can give me some advice i would greatly appreciate it!
No single, simple answer to that one! :lol: In fact, I'll take this opportunity to put in a shameless plug for the Advanced HPLC Method Development web course that I'll be doing next month (http://www.lcresources.com/training/tramd.html).

With that out of the way, a few questions:

How much do you know about the compound (hopefully, it's not a case of "Here's a white powder; analyze it.")?
  • What's the structure?

    Is it ionizable? If so, how many of what functional groups (from which you can make a guess as to pKa values)?

    Does it have any double bonds? Any conjugated bond systems or aromatic moieties (from which you can take a guess at UV spectrum)?

    How was it synthesized (what were the starting materials and what might be expected in the way of intermediates and byproducts)?

    If it's a proprietary compound, do you have any chromatographic conditions from the supplier (or development lab)?

    If it's not proprietary, can you find any chromatography conditions for it (or related molecules) on the web?
In the absence of an initial method and assuming no "special problems" (i.e, it's got a chromophore, it's go only a few ionizable groups, and it's got decent solubility in water and/or polar organic solvents), I'd start by making a solution in 50/50 methanol/water and running a UV spectrum.

Then get a good C18 or C8 column. The A solvent would be a buffer at a pH a couple of units away on the unionized side of the pKa (if possible; if not, something like 0.1% formic acid will give you MS compatibility). The B solvent would be either acetonitrile or methanol (flip a coin!). Run a gradient from 5% organic up to 95% organic with the time set to give k* values around 5 (that will depend on the column geometry and flow rate) and see what happens.

If there is only one peak, or if all the peaks are fairly close together (less than about 25% of the gradient), then you can do an isocratic separation. You can estimate the %organic by looking at what the %B was when your compound eluted, and then backing off about 5%. A PDA is very useful here because you can get UV spectra "on the fly".

If you have a lot of peaks spread over more than 25% of the gradient, then you will need a gradient. You can adjust selectivity by tweaking the gradient time, the temperature, the pH, and/or the organic solvent.

If everything comes off at the beginning of the gradient, then try a longer-chain column (if you started with C8) or a different functionality (something like an EPG type column). If everything comes off at the very end, then try a shorter-chain column or something like a cyano.

If your compound has fairly strong acid or base groups (i.e., easily ionizable) and everything comes off at the beginning, then try ion-pair or a mixed-mode column.

Once you get a reasonable separation, go back and develop an "orthogonal" set of conditions: big change in column chemistry, change the organic solvent, possibly change the pH to the other side of the pKa. The idea here is to maximize the chances that coeluting peaks in one system will separate in the other.

LC-MS can be a tremendous help if you have to identify the structures of the impurities. As a minimum (if you don't have access to LC-MS or LC-MS/MS) you should collect enough of your "major" peak to verify that you're looking at the correct compound.

Now comes the fun part :wink: . You need to stress the API and then adjust your separations based on what you see as degradants. Then start all over again with the formulation!

OK, that was very long-winded! :wink: Basically pretty close to your proposal. The major difference is that I really don't find TLC terribly useful as a pilot technique for HPLC; translating from one to the other introduces enough uncertainty that I prefer to work with the HPLC from the beginning. That said, a quick TLC run is a nice reality check in the case of things like crude products or reaction mixtures, where you can see how much junk stays at the origin!).
-- Tom Jupille
LC Resources / Separation Science Associates
tjupille@lcresources.com
+ 1 (925) 297-5374
Thanks Tom for the help, I just have one final question...
"Is it ionizable? If so, how many of what functional groups (from which you can make a guess as to pKa values)?
What i normally do is just run a number of different pH's for the moblie phase and i dont normally work out the pKA....is this a correct approach?
If i see the compund has a number of different functional groups...how to determine the overall pKa of the compound?

Thanks again!!
Hello
If you don't have automatic fraction collector or preparative column => isolation weigh quantites of admixting substancies may be big problem.

Prerarative TLC is a more universal and "visuable" method from semi-weight (mg) isolation of admixting subtancies (if hand don't grow out of ass)
Well, good luck.
As the song says
"If suffer for a long time that something will turn out" :D
Screening various pH mobile phases is entirely appropriate and particularly useful where you have mutiple ionizable groups. There is no single pKa in that case; each group has its own.

There's nothing magic (or obligatory, for that matter) about staying away from a pKa; it's just that it gives a lower probability of robustness problems.
-- Tom Jupille
LC Resources / Separation Science Associates
tjupille@lcresources.com
+ 1 (925) 297-5374
For pKa approximation - you could just bung the structure into appropriate software. An approximation is all you need.

For most initial scouting work, I wouldn't bother changing pH of the mobile phase. 95%+ of the time a low pH (ca. 2-3 with TFA or formic acid) works just fine.
We have couple of tools for method development which are based on properties of your molecule:
http://www.sielc.com/MethodDevelopment_ ... dType.html (step-by-step guide)
http://www.sielc.com/MethodDevelopment_Guide.html (column , buffer selection, detection technique)

Regards,
Vlad Orlovsky
HELIX Chromatography
My opinions might be bias, but I have about 1000 examples to support them. Check our website for new science and applications
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