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				LCMSMS sensitivity drop Anatoxin analysis
				Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:10 pm
				by James_Ball
				I have experienced a strange thing with the EPA 545 Anatoxin analysis.  I have been running it well for about 8 months and the other day it suddenly lost about 80% of the sensitivity.  I cleaned the instrument and did everything I could to figure it out.  My trainee had made up the mobile phase A which is 100mM Acetic Acid in H2O.  After two runs with low sensitivity I made up the mobile phase and it was right back up to the correct sensitivity.  After talking to her the only difference was I used the 10ml repeating pipette with plastic tips and she used a 10ml glass serological pipette, same bottle of acid.  
I always have to make about 10 injections in which the sensitivity falls then levels off, which I think is the acid reaching a stable concentration after an initial loss because of volatility, but even after about a 50% drop it runs stable at a level that is almost 10x what we were seeing when she made up the mobile phase.  
This one has me stumped.  I can't see anything that should be in the disposable glass pipettes that would cause that much effect on the mobile phase.  Anyone else ever see something like this?
			 
			
					
				Re: LCMSMS sensitivity drop Anatoxin analysis
				Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:02 pm
				by Steve Reimer
				I have been working on that method, and a version for surface waters, for a year now and I have yet to see a problem with anatoxin-a reproducibility. I tried decreasing the concentration of acetic acid to test robustness and found it wasn't as critical as I expected.
However I continue to see issues with cylindrospermopsin in surface waters and in local tap water. I am using the labeled internal standards from Abraxis so the uracil IS is gone.
			 
			
					
				Re: LCMSMS sensitivity drop Anatoxin analysis
				Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:29 pm
				by James_Ball
				I have been working on that method, and a version for surface waters, for a year now and I have yet to see a problem with anatoxin-a reproducibility. I tried decreasing the concentration of acetic acid to test robustness and found it wasn't as critical as I expected.
However I continue to see issues with cylindrospermopsin in surface waters and in local tap water. I am using the labeled internal standards from Abraxis so the uracil IS is gone.
For me the Uracil IS is quite stable, but the L-Phenylalanine IS for the Anatoxin is what is causing the problems.  I put on a new fresh bottle of mobile phase and watch as the first few injections have dropping area counts.  Once it becomes stable it can run two 20 sample batches non-stop.
What baffles me is how one of us can make mobile phase and get an 80% loss in sensitivity when using the same reagents.  It has to be something in the pipettes but I can't figure it out.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: LCMSMS sensitivity drop Anatoxin analysis
				Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:00 pm
				by James_Ball
				I went and looked again at the pipettes and the box has a label that states "nonpyrogenic sterile".  They are the Kimble brand labeled "orange" in an orange box.  If they are simply in a cardboard box and labeled sterile, would that mean they must have some type of sterilizing agent present on them?
			 
			
					
				Re: LCMSMS sensitivity drop Anatoxin analysis
				Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:09 pm
				by Steve Reimer
				I have found when evaluating gauze wipes for our chemical warfare agent analysis that the additives in those sterile items are huge compared to the levels we typically look for.
			 
			
					
				Re: LCMSMS sensitivity drop Anatoxin analysis
				Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:14 pm
				by Steve Reimer
				If you get dirty surface water the uracil can be completely suppressed by biogenic material.