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Empower 3 Reporting Threshold impurity

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:43 pm
by EmpowersBane
The ICH defines a Reporting Threshold as "A limit above which (ie greater than) the impurity should be reported" so in Empower 3 Impurity tab if I put 0.05 in the reporting threshold then Empower will flag any value GREATER THAN 0.05.
But my impurity method states that "disregard any impurities less than 0.05%" so in order to include values of 0.05 upwards do I have to adjust the reporting threshold value to 0.04 to reflect this, similar to how RANGE in Empower treats the lower value as Greater than ie a RANGE of 10-20 will only include 11-20.

Re: Empower 3 Reporting Threshold impurity

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:34 am
by ydna1977
Hi ,,

that is my understanding of threshold values in Empower .. though watch decimal places

Less than or equal ? 0.05 = 0.044,, anything more reported as => 0.05 though depends on your internal SOP for rounding or truncation here

the actual value (amount/% area) is rounded according to the decimal places defined for the threshold so I am to believe

For RANGE are you meaning as custom field ?
Not use it much but try using it along with LG and GT perhaps

Re: Empower 3 Reporting Threshold impurity

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:20 pm
by DR
There are also GTE, LTE terms available among CF operators that may be helpful in checking the work of the impurities tab in your proc. methods...

Re: Empower 3 Reporting Threshold impurity

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 6:53 pm
by EmpowersBane
Thanks for the replies but im still confused as to what to put in. ynda, if I put in 0.044 then surely Empower reads that as 0.04400000000000 at its full precision of 14 decimal places and a number like 0.04446788998701 is STILL not 0.05 when rounded to 2 decimal places and would not be flagged as above the reporting threshold? If it were a custom field I could just round it to 2 decimal places example GTE(ROUND(Impurity,-2),0.05) but because these thresholds are defined as only greater than how do you calculate down to still include values of 0.05?!

Re: Empower 3 Reporting Threshold impurity

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 6:26 am
by ydna1977
Hi

Check out tech note for reference :

https://us.v-cdn.net/6030142/uploads/ed ... rch0zt.pdf

Depends on your internal SOP on rounding and /or truncation at the end of the day and additional decimal place recommended

Re: Empower 3 Reporting Threshold impurity

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 6:13 pm
by EmpowersBane
Thanks for that, the article is helpful. ill have to play around with precisions to see what exactly Empower considers included when setting a threshold. Thanks.