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Waters 2695 Torpedo Spring

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 6:41 pm
by GoinBoardin
Hello,
I'm using an older Waters 2695 HPLC. All was well with it until I began having pressure drops when the accumulator piston would retract & the primary was to be providing the system pressure. Once the accumulator began its compression stroke, system pressure would begin to rebuild. Static leak check revealed the primary pump was not building any pressure. After new check valves, pistons, and seals did not remedy the issue, I began swapping parts between the primary & accumulator (check valves, pump heads, transducers, torpedoes). The only part to make a difference was the torpedo/drive assembly itself, so I focused my attention there. Interestingly, having the torpedoes swapped resulted in pressure spikes rather than pressure drops. Both pumps built pressure in this configuration. After removing the manifold from the front of the [original] primary torpedo, I found the return spring in three pieces. It seems this was resulting in only a partial return of the piston driver during the return stroke, so the subsequent initial movement of the stepper motor was not building any pressure (there was a gap between the ball screw & the piston). Everything else in the LC is fine. I was wondering if any of you may know where I could source a replacement spring, or if I am stuck sourcing a new torpedo. The spring seems to have somewhat odd dimensions (2.7" free length, 1.7" OD, 0.105" gauge wire, and compressed length of a mere 0.75", with 5.5 coils) and made of stainless steel wire . I have never needed to source a compression spring before, so any guidance is appreciated.

I realize this is a somewhat odd question, so if nothing else, hopefully this helps someone else in the future diagnose a periodic pressure drop on their 2695.

Many thanks

Re: Waters 2695 Torpedo Spring

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:14 am
by DR
The other test that would give you a clue that the return spring was not performing would be a flow rate test. Flow rate should be off with a broken spring.

Re: Waters 2695 Torpedo Spring

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:26 pm
by GoinBoardin
The other test that would give you a clue that the return spring was not performing would be a flow rate test. Flow rate should be off with a broken spring.
Yes, definitely. With no column installed and the primary drive spring broken, I could watch the flow reverse (via watching a droplet) when the accumulator piston refilled.

As an update, McMaster Carr should be able to make custom replacement springs. I'd prefer just ordering the OEM replacement spring for a no-hassle fit, but custom springs should work fine too.

Re: Waters 2695 Torpedo Spring

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:16 pm
by GoinBoardin
The custom springs are near exact replicates, McMaster (or whoever they outsourced to) did a great job on them. I have 10 of them, will be testing shortly. I'm optimistic this will extend the life of this LC a little while longer, at least long enough to finish this project. If you're in need of custom springs, don't hesitate to give it a shot.

Specs I sent for the order were: 302 stainless steel, compression springs, wire=0.105", OD=1.68", length=2.7", coil spacing=0.75", ends=closed & flat (ground flat). The part # was 1391N221 but this part number is just for custom springs, still need to provide specifications.