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Lomustine
Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 9:44 am
by echolyns
Hi everybody!
I'm new here and found this forum very very interesting.
Can I ask you if anyone has ever worked on Lomustine?
My task is to develop a HPLC impurity method. Maybe you can give me a hand.
Thanks a lot,
E
Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 8:52 am
by echolyns
Hi everybody..
Could you please give me some advice about this issue?
I've been working on this nitrosourea compound as I said in the previous post. I've got good results sp far but I hace a big problem.
One of the possible degradants is a primary amine (cyclohexylamine) and I can't make it to detect it with my reversed phase method, even if I use my UV detector (the only one I have) at 195nm. I can see ir when I use a high concentration and, anyway, the peak's got a horrible shape. I've tried to use a low pH buffer (2.1)-phosphate- and the peak shape got better-nevertheless, the sensitivity is still bad.
Can anyone help?
Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 8:21 pm
by tom jupille
What do you need to attain as a detection limit (in mass units)? Cyclohexylamine doesn't have much of a chromophore and UV may simply not be sensitive enough.
Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 9:28 am
by echolyns
Tom,
Thanks a lot for replying.
It should be as low as 0.1% or something similiar. I still don't know and have to ask but a rough idea this is so.
I have to make my boss understand that maybe we have to develop a different method for cyclohexylamine (maybe a GC or TLC method).
What do you think?
I was also thinking of asking for a conductivity detector.
What is your opinion?
Thanks,
E
Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 7:12 pm
by tom jupille
You have to define your target sensitivity in terms of mass-on-column, not %.
That said, it really doubt that conductivity will be much better than RI. GC or fluorescences (both would require derivatization) would be a better bet.
Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 7:52 pm
by chromatographer1
To perform a limit test by TLC might be a good idea.
You should be able to determine if CHA is present at 200, 500 or 1000 ppm.
A TLC test might only take a few minutes if you use reverse phase TLC and Ninhydrin or Iodine could give you an answer you seek.
best wishes,
Rod
Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 4:57 pm
by echolyns
Thank you guys!
I'll do some trials and will let you know.
I think RID and TLC will be the first ones. I have to find a RID detector, first! Do I have to avoid certain buffers or solvents using RID?
I will let you know.
Thanks a lot.
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:49 pm
by echolyns
Hi everybody,
I have one question.
I'am doing some trials on RID detector but also want to try a derivatization agent. I need to buy one and thought of OPA.
What is your opinion? I have to derivatize a primary amine.
I can only use a UV detector. I think there the derivate will not lack absorbance in UV.
Has anyone of you ever worked with this reagent?
How would I have to carry out the derivatization reaction?
Thank you for your help.
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:22 pm
by Uwe Neue
A very convenient reagent for this type of application is the ACCQ-Tag reagent from Waters. It reacts within seconds to a derivative that can be used with both UV and fluorescence detection.
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:38 pm
by Victor
I would try the HPLC derivatization method first-sounds the best approach.
The related compound dicyclohexylamine is used as a component of the Grob test mixture in GC. It is a sensitive test of column activity...so is not an easy compound to analyse. Of course, this is a secondary amine, but it could suggest that a GC method is not impossible for cyclohexylamine.
Just another suggestion.
Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:06 am
by echolyns
Thanks a lot Guys!
Actually, I have been asked to develop an HPLC method.
So, I can't use a GC. Of course, Victor, in case there is no chance to detect it through HPLC I will turn to GC or TLC.
Uwe,
I'll have a look at Waters for your reactant.
Thanks for these advice.
Echolyns.