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Calculating detectivity - GC-FID
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:18 am
by pumpedupchemist
Hi Everyone,
I have been tasked with calculating the detectivity of a FID detector.
Can anyone please advise me on the steps i need to do this?
Thanks.
Re: Calculating detectivity - GC-FID
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:19 am
by HPLC chemist
You have been given an impossible task! The detectability of the detector varies with the susceptability of the molecule. For instance you won't see any pesticides (at the required level of ppt) at all with an FID so we use an ECD (Electron Capture Detector) instead.
Re: Calculating detectivity - GC-FID
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:42 am
by pumpedupchemist
Hi,
Thanks for the response. Impossible it does seem at the minute.
Starting point is a FID test mix with the target compound being hexadecane so at least i have a starting point!
Re: Calculating detectivity - GC-FID
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:14 pm
by rb6banjo
There are a number of schools of thought on this. Your limit of detection will be the lowest concentration where you can reliably say that the signal your detector gives you is above the noise. The one that i see most is that limit of detection is defined as the amount of analyte that gives a signal that is 3 times larger than the noise in the baseline (I usually take that noise at the retention time for the analyte).
This topic comes up frequently. Use the search box above to see if you can find some threads that might help you.
Re: Calculating detectivity - GC-FID
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 2:07 pm
by pumpedupchemist
Thank you for your recommendations. will definitely search for this.
Re: Calculating detectivity - GC-FID
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 9:27 pm
by Peter Apps
Do you want to calculate it or measure it ?
Assuming the latter, it is not a trivial task. With a GC inlet and column feeding the detector you will never know how much sample you are feeding to the detector. You need to feed sample directly to the detector, ideally from a diffusion standard that you weigh at intervals to measure how much sample it si feeding to the detector - you can control its temperature with the GC oven and use the GC pneumatics to flush gas form the diffusion standard to the detector.
Or you can report the manufacturer's claim. It is hardly ever the detectivity that is the limiting factor in an anaysis.
Peter
Re: Calculating detectivity - GC-FID
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:10 pm
by LALman
There is usually a section in the instrument manual for the detector that gives some parameters of absolute limits of detection as determined by the vendor. You can perhaps back out of those estimates an idea of how to calculate it for a given column and flow.
Re: Calculating detectivity - GC-FID
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 6:37 am
by pumpedupchemist
Hi guys,
sorry was offline for the bank holiday weekend (in UK). I am working with the vendor to try and lower their specified detectivity.
I have a few ideas of how I will approach this now so just going to try a few different methods to see what works best (and gives the most reproducibile results)
Thanks for your suggestions.