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Methylamine/Ethylamine/Propylamine extractions

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:13 pm
by aovaici
Anyone have any advice on trying to extract for Methylamine/Ethylamine/Propylamine? We currently run water samples directly and the RL's aren't very impressive. I'm hoping to extract but have been failing. I tried Hexane/THF (added salt to pull solvent out) and DCM with no success at all basically.

Anyone have any solvent/condition suggestions?

Re: Methylamine/Ethylamine/Propylamine extractions

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:19 pm
by Aldijkhuizen
Strong cationexchange, for example oasis mcx?

Re: Methylamine/Ethylamine/Propylamine extractions

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:36 pm
by Rndirk
What do you mean by "directly"? Is it injection of liquid water samples, or headspace?

Re: Methylamine/Ethylamine/Propylamine extractions

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:19 pm
by aovaici
What do you mean by "directly"? Is it injection of liquid water samples, or headspace?
Sorry, water directly.

Re: Methylamine/Ethylamine/Propylamine extractions

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:24 pm
by aovaici
Strong cationexchange, for example oasis mcx?
I'll have to contact them, I didn't think of trying cation exchange because of super low boiling point of Methylamine.

Re: Methylamine/Ethylamine/Propylamine extractions

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:51 pm
by Rndirk
I would consider a headspace GC analysis

Re: Methylamine/Ethylamine/Propylamine extractions

Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 2:17 am
by dap
Try to add strong basics to water & hexane extraction or water & headspace.

Re: Methylamine/Ethylamine/Propylamine extractions

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 12:43 pm
by MSCHemist
I would consider derivatizing with one of the chloroformates probably propyl and propanol for best LOD. Chloroformates work really well for amines and derivatize in aqueous solutions which can then be extracted with chloroform/isooctane and give better chromatography.

Re: Methylamine/Ethylamine/Propylamine extractions

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 7:32 pm
by dlbenach
Do chloroformates work with tertiary amines? I'm specifically interested in trimethyl and triethyl amine. Do you have a link to any articles that give the details of the derivatization procedure ie solvent ratios, reaction conditions, etc?

Thanks,
Dave

Re: Methylamine/Ethylamine/Propylamine extractions

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 12:27 pm
by MSCHemist
no It only does primary and I think secondary. There is no room to make a carbamate on a tertiary amine.