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Decreasing Retention Time
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:25 am
by syx
Dear members,
The retention time of our analyte is gradually decreased though other peaks (unretained peak and placebo's peaks) are remain stable. Why this problem could be occured? What should we do to resolve the problem?
Thanks in advance.
Best regards,
Siswanto
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:53 am
by AdrianF
Can you give more details:
Column
Mobile phase
Type of compound being analysed
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:10 am
by chandusabini
Hi,
What is the Pka of your moloecue and mobile phase which is currently.
There is chances of variation in RT at mobile phase of pH which equal to Pka of your molecule
One more is due sensitivity of only anlyte towards organic.
chandra
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:26 pm
by cyanogen78
Because you said "placebo" sometimes in this kind of analysis the matrix contains a little bit of compound that is adsorbed stronger by the stationary phase. If you use an isocratic elution this compound will adsorb more and more blocking the stationary phase for the analyte. The effect is decreasing retention times of your compound. If you use gradient possibly the equilibration time is unsufficient. But the first effect I have seen for the analysis of Nitrates from foods on SCX column.
Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 1:13 am
by syx
If you use an isocratic elution this compound will adsorb more and more blocking the stationary phase for the analyte.
I will try to add gradient steps to remove absorbed compounds if presence.
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:43 am
by syx

i'm having troubles trying to determine mecobalamine in mecobalamin injection. i modified the method from Shijiazhuang Institute Journal, using a Phenomenex Luna C18 (2) 100A 5U 250x4.60 mm column, mobile phase Methanol : Acetonitrile : KH2PO4 buffer 0.05M pH 4.0 (13:10:77), flowrate 1.5 ml/minute, injection volume 5 mcl, detection 264 nm, oven temperature 40ºC.
The problem is the retention time for Mecobalamin (at about 11.5 minute) decrease from time to time. i tried to inject my samples of Mecobalamin in injection and the placebo gives a peak, at about 9.5 minute. the retention times of the peak from the placebo is also decreasing, but it's not as extreme as the mecobalamin's peak.
what should i try next?
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:41 pm
by JGK
I would suspect that your analyte (mecobalamine) retention may be affected by very small variations in the buffer pH
Minor deviations in buffer pH may cuse appreciable shifts in RT.
How stable is your day to day pH meter calibration ?
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:54 pm
by yaoguocan
in my opinion,there are four reasons for retention time delay as indicated above.
1.inaccurate pump flow
2.mobile phase
3.colum temp.
4.Column contamination
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:53 pm
by rhaefe
JKG has a good point. My first guess would be pH as well.
Buffers have been discussed here in the past. The three pKa values for phosphoric acid are:
pKa(1)=2.15
pKa(2)=7.2
pKa(3)=12.3
So the useful pH range for phosphate buffers are:
pH(1)=2.2±0.5 (1.7 to 2.7)
pH(2)=7.2±0.5 (6.7 to 7.7)
pH(3)=12.3±0.5 (11.8to 12.8)
The closer you stay to the pKa the better the buffer (higher buffer capacity) I personally try to stay around pKa±0.5 or closer but I think you might be able to get away with it if you stay around pKa±1.0
So phosphate is not useful as buffer at pH=4.0. Sodium acetate/acetic acid (pKa=4.8) is a much better joice.
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:26 pm
by JGK
JKG has a good point. My first guess would be pH as well.
Buffers have been discussed here in the past. The three pKa values for phosphoric acid are:
pKa(1)=2.15
pKa(2)=7.2
pKa(3)=12.3
So the useful pH range for phosphate buffers are:
pH(1)=2.2±0.5 (1.7 to 2.7)
pH(2)=7.2±0.5 (6.7 to 7.7)
pH(3)=12.3±0.5 (11.8to 12.
The closer you stay to the pKa the better the buffer (higher buffer capacity) I personally try to stay around pKa±0.5 or closer but I think you might be able to get away with it if you stay around pKa±1.0
So phosphate is not useful as buffer at pH=4.0. Sodium acetate/acetic acid (pKa=4.

is a much better joice.
rhaefe is right, buffers should be within a pH range of pKa ± 1.0 ideally, so with a monobasic phosphate salt you are well outside this range. As suggested you could use either an acetate or a formate buffer system which would encompass pH 4 within this comfort zone.
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 4:18 am
by syx
my analyst reported that the retention is relatively stable after she changed to acetate buffer. thank you for any help.
