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elsd quantification of amino acids

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Hello all, I was hoping that someone may be able to steer me in the right direction as to the following query.
The company I work for are a pharmaceutical company that primarily produce amino acid mixtures containing a few excipients and flavours. Currently our amino quantification is performed via reverse phase HPLC using a uv/vis detector. For the amino acids such as taurine that show no response to such a detection a derivitization procedure ( usually with fluorecamine ) is carried out prior to injection. We have recently began to do some of our quantification via an ELSD detector and I was after some information as to where to look for resources on methods that may assist in the detection of amino acids using this detector.
There are three primary reasons for the move to the ELSD detector as outlined below
* The larger responses gained will allow more opportunity to accurately quantify our more complex amino acid mixtures ( up to 12 amino acids per mixture )
* There will be increased opportunity to homogenise our methods thus decreasing preparation time due to machine equilibration
* The detection of amino acids currently unable to be quantified without derivitisation will be possible.

I truly would appreciate any assistance in our move to the ELSD detector and look forwards to hearing from you shortly

Regards,
Peter

Hi Peter,

We have few methods for analysis of amino acids by ELSD. Check this link:
http://www.sielc.com/Applications_By_Detection.html

Also check page 24 of the following brochure. It has linearity study for ELSD:
http://www.sielc.com/pdf/SIELC_PrimesepCatalog.pdf

Contact me if you have any questions

Regards,

Vlad

Peter,

I have worked a lot in this area and most of your question can be replied in this article:

1)A comparative study of liquid chromatographic detectors for the analysis of underivatized amino acids
K. Petritis, C. Elfakir, M. Dreux
J. Chromatogr. A 961 (2002) 9-21

Other relevent publications of interest:

2)Validation of an ion-interaction chromatographic analysis of underivatized amino acids in commercial preparation using evaporative light scattering detection
K. Petritis, M. de Person, C. Elfakir, M. Dreux
Chromatographia 60 (2004) 293-298.

3)Ion-pair reversed-phase liquid chromatography for the determination of polar underivatized amino acids using pefluorinated carboxylic acids as ion pairing agent
K. Petritis, P. Chaimbault, C. Elfakir, M. Dreux
J. Chromatogr. A 833 (1999), 147-155.

4) Determination of 20 underivatized proteinic amino acids by ion-pairing chromatography and pneumatically assisted electrospray mass spectrometry
P. Chaimbault, K. Petritis, C. Elfakir, M. Dreux
J. Chromatogr. A 855 (1999) 191-202

5)Ion-pair chromatography on a porous graphitic carbon stationary phase for the analysis of twenty underivatized protein amino acids
P. Chaimbault, K. Petritis, C. Elfakir, M. Dreux
J. Chromatogr. A 870 (2000) 245-254

There are more out there I have written on the subject, you can search my name in the literature.

Vlad, I am now in France for a conference and I talked to my previous group for your company's column and they told me that they would be interested to evaluate them. I suggest that you sent them one for free if you can. They have a selection of more than 70 amino acid standard so they should be able to generate some good results with your columns...

The professor to contact if you are interested is: claire.elfakir@univ-orleans.fr
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