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Shift in retension time

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:23 am
by gregorjose
When I am doing my RPHPLC runs on agilent 1100 the retension time of the main peak is shifting. What to do?

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:49 am
by leadazide
Do you have any form of temp. control for your column? Thats my first thought.. We have the same problem because we donøt have any temp. control.. :(

But more information would be nice... Whats your mobile phase? What are you analysing? Is the rt shifting up or down?

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:01 am
by PJ8
Is the method gradient or isocratic? Is it pH modified?

It could be that your system wasn't equilibrated fully when you started your run, if this is the case you would see a consistent shifting of peaks between each injection until the system becomes equilibrated. To avoid this in future leave the system longer at initial conditions before starting the run (approximately 20-30 column volumes is a good rule of thumb.)

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:33 pm
by tom jupille
When I am doing my RPHPLC runs on agilent 1100 the retension time of the main peak is shifting. What to do?
look here:
http://www.lcresources.com/resources/TSWiz/hs30.htm

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:24 pm
by juddc
More information is certainly needed!

In my experience any one or more of the following could cause your RTs to shift (in no particular order):

1. gradient mixing variations - especiallu at very high or low mp organic levels
2. flow variations (check valves or leaks)
3. mobile phase pH too near analyte pKa
4. column temperature variations
5. incomplete column equilibration
6. junk in the sample or mobile phase coating the column
7. incompatible sample prep, diluent, mobile phase, etc destroying column support

What are your symptoms and signs specifically?

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 11:14 am
by gregorjose
0.1 TFA is the mobole phase. I am using symmetry column.Temperature is maintained at 40 degrees. RT shifts in both directions. I tried longer equilibriation, but that didnt help. Along with this some time my peaks are tailing.

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 6:43 pm
by Bruce Hamilton
0.1 TFA is the mobole phase. I am using symmetry column.Temperature is maintained at 40 degrees. RT shifts in both directions. I tried longer equilibriation, but that didnt help. Along with this some time my peaks are tailing.
The responders above offered general advice and asked for more detailed information, and the above information is insufficient for further detailed suggestions.....

TFA is 0.1% of the mobile phase. Would you please look at the method you are following and share with us the detail of the preparation and composition of the remaining 99.9%?.

Knowing whether you are using a gradient ( with details of the programme ) or isocratic method would also help. Details of the flow rate, and column pressure at the initial flow, would be helpful, as would whther the pressure changes with the number of sample injections.

As a very first step, you should measure the flow coming from the detector cell and ensure the flow is constant throughout several sample runs, and that there is no correlation between pressure and retention time variations. If there are variations, you should look for leaks or air bubbles in the pump, and also ensure sample solution is completely miscible with the mobile phase.

Can you look on the column ( or the Waters column box ) and provide more details like whether it is RP8, RP18, along with the particle size, column internal diameter and length. An indication of whether you are using a guard column, and how frequently you change it would be nice.

Could you look at the detector and tell us what sort ( UV ) and what the detection wavelength is. An idea of the sample sequence used and confirmation that any standard is stable would also help.

Could you also add the identity and nature of the sample, and how you prepare it ( what solvent, any filtration or centrifugation).

Can you provide some historical details - eg were you using the method previously for a long time, or is it a new method?. How long has the column been used, and whether the pressure has changed.

Bruce Hamilton

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:46 am
by gregorjose
Thanks for your expert suggestions. I found out some very small air bubbles going in to the system . I changed the filter of the inlet. Now my system is working fine. :lol:

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:26 pm
by tom jupille
And thanks for getting back to us with the results. It helps us all to learn! :D