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currently i am developing method for seperating brompheniramine maleate, phenylepherine hydrochloride, and phenylpropanolamine HCl in a syrup. my retention time is very long ( 60 mins) using a C18 column,ph = 3,mobile phase is 50:50 methanol:0.005M phosphate buffer, and 0.005M hexane sulfonic acid.only seperated phenylpropanolamine and phenylephrine.i got problems with brompheniramine... how can i achieve a shorter seperation time.would acetonitrile produce better results?

suggestions will be greatly appreciated.thank you

Depends on exactly what the "problem" with brompheniramine is.

Can you bit a bit more specific:
- what brand/model of C18 column (C18 columns are not all equivalent!)?
- column dimensions and mobile phase flow rate?
- k' values for your three peaks of interest?
- is the problem with brompheniramine just long retention, does it have peak shape issues, or does it overlap one of the other peaks?

In general, retention for all three peaks will decrease if you:
- increase the % MeOH
- decrease the hexane sulfonate concentration
- use a shorter-chain sulfonic acid (e.g., pentane sulfonic)
- increase the temperature.
The catch is that the relative change in retention may not be the same for all three peaks, in which case selectivity (relative peak spacing) may also change.

Further changes in selectivity can result from changing the organic solvent from MeOH to ACN or THF, by changing to a different brand of C18 column, or by changing to a different type of bonded phase (C8, phenyl, cyano, etc.).

Decide which of these variable you want to start with, make a big change in the conditions, and see if things get better or worse. Repeat as necessary with the other variables.
-- Tom Jupille
LC Resources / Separation Science Associates
tjupille@lcresources.com
+ 1 (925) 297-5374

Jack, Here are few alternative thoughts:

Your problem is common for analysis of cough and cold compositions. My guess is that right now you have 20-30 minutes gap between brompheniramine and other two compounds. Cough and cold compositions usually contain mixture of hydrophilic neutral (acetaminophen, guaifenesin, guaiacol, etc.), hydrophylic basic (phenylephrine, epinephrine, ephedrine, etc.) and hydrophobic basic compounds (pheniramines, dextromethorphan, doxylamine, pyrilamine). It is not easy to analyze them and elute all of them in a reasonable time. In most of the cases you end up with fast elution of compounds from first two groups and much longer time with hydrophobic basic compounds.
Ion-pairing reagents will help you to retain hydrophilic basic compounds but at the same time increase retention time of basic hydrophobic compounds. IP will have no effect on neutral components (which you don’t have). This becomes even more serious with hydrophobic compounds which have more than one basic group as ion-pairing reagent will interact with both groups creating even longer retention (pheniramines, pyrilamine, triprolidine). You can use IP reagent with shorter chain as Tom suggested but this will decrease retention time of you hydrophilic basic compounds (norephedrine and phenylephrine) and you might lose resolution between these two. Another approach is to use sharp gradient of ACN from 0% to 70% with no IP reagents-a lot of modern C18 columns will handle 0% organic.

You can use our mixed mode approach and elute compounds of your mixture within 10 (even shorter) minutes with good resolution-no ion-pairing reagent needed and you can use ELSD/LC/MS compatible conditions.
In the example below you have a mixture of compounds which mimic your situation (hydrophilic basic and hydrophobic basic). You can also see what a regular C18 column will give you under similar isocratic conditions with no IP reagent:

http://www.sielc.com/application_131.html

If your requirements can tolerate gradient you can do double gradient (ACN and buffer) you can do even better. In this case you will have extremely sharp peaks and achieve very high efficiency- 500K-2M plates/meter due to focusing phenomena. Although some people will say that this is not correct plate count and I can agree with this argument, but at the end you should not care how to call or calculate it-you will have good separation:

http://www.sielc.com/application_122.html

You can also check other methods related to cough and cold compositions:
http://www.sielc.com/compound_167.html

We will set up a method for your tomorrow (I don’t think that we have brompheniramine but can use chrlopheniramine instead) and I will update you when we have results.

Kind regards,

Vlad
Mr. tom Jupille,

thank you very much for sharing your technical knowledge to address my problem.i was greatly enlightened!surely, ill adapt the tips you and your associates has given on my succeeding hplc runs.

the data that i posted recently was from my previous HPLC trial last month.here are the detailed specs you requested:

column : Merck Lichrocart rp-18 (C18), 4.6 x 35 cm (i think)
flowrate: 1.0 mL/min
pressure: 2500 psi
temp: 25 C
HPLC system : isocratic
wavelength:254 nm

the cough and cold syrup under method development is just a generic formulation composed mainly of common excipients for syrups.


recently,i conducted a HPLC run using following system:

column: merck lichrocart rp-8 (C8) column
Mobile phase: 0.025M sodium phosphate (monobasic) buffer : meoh (70:30)
flowrate: 1.0 mL/min
ph = 3
temp. : 25 deg C
HPLC : isocratic
ion-pairing reagent : ocatane sulfonic acid (0.005M)
wavelength : 254 nm

the result is better than the system using a C18 column. the elution time of brompheniramine maleate(BPM) is at 13 mins.but, poor resolution was achieved in phenylpropanolamine HCl (PPA) and phenylephrine HCl(PE). the retention times are 3.5 and 4.5 respectively. the two active peaks are eluted closely right next to the mobile peak.however, the poorly seperated peaks of PPA and PE are sharp and narrow peaks. BPM has a broad peak.

i am looking forward for the method your associates offered to set up for me. brompheniramine is just the bromine analogue of chlorperminamine. i think the system would be suitable...also i am looking forward for an evaluation of my recent HPLC run using a C8 column. ill be very happy to receive more suggestions..

again i would to thank your research team for offering a detailed technical support. more power !



sincerely,

Jack Angel

SIELC_tech,

thank you for giving me also the useful links and the detailed technical support.ill integrate all the technical supports given to me...
im looking forward for the method you offered to set up.

jack angel

you may find some guidance at the following location:

http://www.waters.com/WatersDivision/pd ... ntis19.pdf

You will find this and related applications at the Waters Chemistry eApplications Notebook. If you are not already a subscriber, you may need to sign on.

Jack,

We have developed method for your compounds. It is isocratic with good separation and reasonable retention.

Phenylephrine 4.9 min
Norephedrine 9.1 min
Chlorpheiramine 14.1 min

Column: Primesep C, 4.6x150 mm

Mobile phase: ACN/water=65/35 with 5 mmol triethylamine phosphate pH-3.5. You can use other buffers if you need LC/MS compatible conditions (ammonium formate with the same pH, for example)

I will post a link here next week.

Regards,

Vlad
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