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Activation of nickel catalyst inside methanizer

Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 2:30 am
by chhubert
Dear all,

I have a methanizer installed in my GC which is used to convert CO and CO2 to methane prior to analysing by FID. Does anyone know how to rejuvenate the nickel catalyst inside the methanizer without dismantling it? Thanks for your help.

methanizer

Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 12:18 pm
by chromatographer1
If it has been poisoned by sulfur compounds then it is not readily possible to restore the device.

If it is only carbonized then use air and high temperature to burn the carbon off the catalyst.

Try to avoid putting hydrocarbons on your methanizer or any other components of your analysis except CO and CO2 by using a heartcut application.

best wishes,

Rod

Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 2:35 pm
by arie2044
HI
you can try to run samples with high H2 concentration at 370-400 deg C, we usually do thisand it works.
let me know

hydrogen cleaning

Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 12:08 pm
by chromatographer1
Yes, I agree with arie2044. He is correct, but sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. Given the cost of the catalyst column and the cost of wasted time usually it is more cost efficient to get a new catalyst column and get the work done.

best wishes,

Rod

Re: methanizer

Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 12:22 pm
by pi3832
Try to avoid putting hydrocarbons on your methanizer
Why? (Not disagreeing, just curious, since I've been arguing with an FID w/methanizer that refuses to stay in calibration, and isn't very linear.)

why???

Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 3:52 pm
by chromatographer1
Because of the symptoms you describe. Many hydrocarbons will deposit carbon on the surface of the catalyst effectively blocking the catalytic conversion of CO and CO2 to methane. This is especially true of olefinic hydrocarbons.

Even if they don't block the active sites permanently, they may do so intermittently and cause inconsistent conversion of CO and CO2 to methane. I hope these reasons are true as they have been given to me as true.

Even so, the best reason I know not to allow hydrocarbons onto the methanizer column...................

because it works well, if you don't, and it works poorly if you do.

best wishes,

Rod

Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 6:03 pm
by arie2044
Hi
The best application for methanizer to keep it work stable, linear, etc., for years and i realy mean for years, is to use back flush valve between the column and the methanizer and to avoid any hydrocarbons heavier than C1 enter to methanizer. we use Porapack column, the ellution order is CO,CH4, CO2 and then backflush. we use 4 methanizers, and one of them we operate for more than 20 years, 10-12samples in 24 hours a day, every day year around. some samples contain hydrocarbons up to C7 and higher, some contain H2S & RSH, and other impurities. the system works.

Good luck

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 3:51 pm
by chhubert
Thanks all for your suggestion.