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Problems with HPLC EDTA Assay
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 7:41 pm
by dogmatta
We currently have a method for analysis of EDTA that we are having problems with. At times, the area counts for the EDTA peak increase over the course of the entire run. Other times, they are very consistent.
Run 1 Run 2
705664 604274
705246 610078
702745 613880
701808 618958
699750 629232
The issue does not seem to be carryover, as there is nothing detectable in the blank injections immediately following any sample or standard injections. A brief summary of the method is outlined below.
EDTA derviatized with ferric nitrate nonahydrate solution
Buffer/Mobile Phase A is tetrabutyl ammonium bromide and sodium formate in water
Mobile Phase B is Methanol
EDTA elutes during 98% MPA and 2% MPB
The column is a Hypersil BDS C18 5 micron 4.6 x 250 mm
UV detection at 260 nm
Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
Re: Problems with HPLC EDTA Assay
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 2:39 pm
by Consumer Products Guy
We assayed EDTA and other chelants in finished consumer products regularly using HPLC with UV detector, but with a C8 column, and isocratic elution.
If you post your E-mail address, I can share with you what we have used successfully.
Re: Problems with HPLC EDTA Assay
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 8:09 pm
by dogmatta
Thanks for the offer, but validating a new procedure is not really an option at this moment. I am trying to see if we can find a technique to make our existing procedure perform consistently.
In addition, there are other analytes being quantified in this method, so we need to use the gradient.
Re: Problems with HPLC EDTA Assay
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 7:20 am
by HPLCaddict
Could this be a case of analyte adsorption in the HPLC system? Being a chelating agent, EDTA may bind to active sides on the steel surfaces. You may try to passivate the system using nitric acid...or as a quick fix, use some "priming" injections of a high-concentrated EDTA standard solution in order to saturate any active sites.
Re: Problems with HPLC EDTA Assay
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:41 am
by hossam kamal
lately we developed a valid method for Edta analysis after derivtization with ferric chlorid we used ion pair like yours , we had some problems like drafting noise and baseline noise, we supposed that problems like this can result from reactions between ferric cations and silanol groups of the stationary bed, so we used to use relatively long run times ( let mobile phase to flow for about 15-20 min after elution of each principle peak washing the stationary phase 0.5% EDTA solution for about 30 min , this technique was very effective in removal of any iron traces on the packing and our problem was resolved , and note that ferric ions have destructive effect on silanol gps, hope that could help you with your problem
Re: Problems with HPLC EDTA Assay
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:54 am
by dogmatta
Thank you for your replies. I will try these solutions.
Re: Problems with HPLC EDTA Assay
Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:54 am
by bunnahabhain
We assayed EDTA and other chelants in finished consumer products regularly using HPLC with UV detector, but with a C8 column, and isocratic elution.
If you post your E-mail address, I can share with you what we have used successfully.
Hi Consumer Products Guy. Would you mind sending me this method at joerg.johannes (add) laus.de?
Thanks a lot
Jörg
Re: Problems with HPLC EDTA Assay
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:09 am
by jerrychen428
We assayed EDTA and other chelants in finished consumer products regularly using HPLC with UV detector, but with a C8 column, and isocratic elution.
If you post your E-mail address, I can share with you what we have used successfully.
hi,consumer products guy,would you share your EDTA assay method for me?
jerrychen428@gmail.com
thank you
Re: Problems with HPLC EDTA Assay
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:44 pm
by KM-USA
We assayed EDTA and other chelants in finished consumer products regularly using HPLC with UV detector, but with a C8 column, and isocratic elution.
If you post your E-mail address, I can share with you what we have used successfully.
hi,consumer products guy,would you share your EDTA assay method for me?
jerrychen428@gmail.com
thank you
Jerry - he sent this procedure to me, said I could pass it on. So I E-mailed it.
Re: Problems with HPLC EDTA Assay
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:07 pm
by sasidhar.boddapati
We assayed EDTA and other chelants in finished consumer products regularly using HPLC with UV detector, but with a C8 column, and isocratic elution.
If you post your E-mail address, I can share with you what we have used successfully.
hi,consumer products guy,would you share your EDTA assay method for me?
sasidhar.boddapati@akorn.com
Thank you
Re: Problems with HPLC EDTA Assay
Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:42 pm
by KM-USA
We assayed EDTA and other chelants in finished consumer products regularly using HPLC with UV detector, but with a C8 column, and isocratic elution.
If you post your E-mail address, I can share with you what we have used successfully.
hi,consumer products guy,would you share your EDTA assay method for me?
jerrychen428@gmail.com
thank you
Jerry - he sent this procedure to me, said I could pass it on. So I E-mailed it.
sasidhar.boddapati@akorn.com - I E-mailed CPG's procedure.
Re: Problems with HPLC EDTA Assay
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:36 pm
by soccerdad007
Good morning Consumer Products Guy.
We have been doing EDTA work using UV and MS detectors on occasion. I would be interested in having a copy of your method if the offer is still there for comparison.
Thanks
Kevin
Email ksoulsbu at BCIT dot ca
Re: Problems with HPLC EDTA Assay
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:51 pm
by CopelandClark
Dear Colleagues- I would be interested in comparing with CPG's method as well. Could someone reach me at
copelandclark@hotmail.com ?
Re: Problems with HPLC EDTA Assay
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:07 pm
by 2018HPLC
Consumer Products Guy wrote:
We assayed EDTA and other chelants in finished consumer products regularly using HPLC with UV detector, but with a C8 column, and isocratic elution.
If you post your E-mail address, I can share with you what we have used successfully.
Dear Consumer Products Guy:
If your kind offer still exists, would you mind sending me the method? Thank you so much. Lucy
liping_999@yahoo.com
Re: Problems with HPLC EDTA Assay
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:45 am
by soccerdad007
Hi there
I am also still interested in receiving the details
My email is
Soulsbury@icloud.com
Thanks
Kevin