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How do syringe headspacers compare with loop/valve for senst
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 8:28 pm
by MSCHemist
I've been using a Tekmar 7000 for a while now. The best sensitivity settings for GC/MS have been 2ml loop, 5:1 split 1.3 ml/min He (~10ml/min) transfer line into the carrier feed.
I am in the process of setting up a MPS-II/CTC system and am curious how to get the best sensitivity for flavor scans with it. I can theoretically do splitless or pulsed splitless since I don't have a transfer-line to sweep. I assume a fast carrier flow and slow plunger to not overload the liner works best?
Re: How do syringe headspacers compare with loop/valve for s
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 8:23 pm
by RogerBardsley
Thanks for all you work on the 7000. As the application chemist for Tekmar's headspace line, this is always good to hear. I can't offer much advice on how these compare. When you have your system up and running, I would like to hear how things are going. Please contact me at my company email,
roger.bardsley@teledyne.com
Re: How do syringe headspacers compare with loop/valve for senst
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:21 am
by thohry
I've been using a Tekmar 7000 for a while now. The best sensitivity settings for GC/MS have been 2ml loop, 5:1 split 1.3 ml/min He (~10ml/min) transfer line into the carrier feed.
I am in the process of setting up a MPS-II/CTC system and am curious how to get the best sensitivity for flavor scans with it. I can theoretically do splitless or pulsed splitless since I don't have a transfer-line to sweep. I assume a fast carrier flow and slow plunger to not overload the liner works best?
I have used both loop and syringe HS and it seems the syringe give a little better sensitivity.
Re: How do syringe headspacers compare with loop/valve for senst
Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 3:01 am
by mckrause
Splitless will not work. You still need to perform a split injection; it is a gas phase injection and you need to split it.
We use the fastest syringe settings we can get away with, and a low split (1:5) ratio. Depending on how light your light ends are you may need to go to a 1:10 or a 1:20 split.
I love the syringe injections - I much prefer them to the valve.
Re: How do syringe headspacers compare with loop/valve for senst
Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 6:38 am
by Peter Apps
Splitless will not work. You still need to perform a split injection; it is a gas phase injection and you need to split it.
This is too broad a generalization; if you can use stationary phase focussing and temperature programming to sharpen the peaks, then you can put 1 ml or more of headspace into the column without splitting, with considerable improvements in limits of detection. Also, with a megabore column running at high flows (say 10 ml/min) a 1ml injection is only 12s wide even if it is mixed 1:1 with carrier.
Peter
Re: How do syringe headspacers compare with loop/valve for senst
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:56 pm
by MSCHemist
When I do splitless I always use pulsed splitless that gives me a column flow rate of ~3-4 ml/min during injection. I tried pulsed split with my Tekmar 7000 but found the 6890 could not generate the low split pulses with acceptable reproducibility.
Re: How do syringe headspacers compare with loop/valve for senst
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:51 am
by mckrause
Peter Apps wrote:
Also, with a megabore column running at high flows (say 10 ml/min) a 1ml injection is only 12s wide even if it is mixed 1:1 with carrier.
Peter, he specifically states he is using GC-MS. Hard, really hard, to run 10 mL/minute through your GC-MS.
I agree with the statement about the pulsed splitless. We have tried it in the past and found the variability to be high.
Re: How do syringe headspacers compare with loop/valve for senst
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 5:53 am
by Peter Apps
Peter Apps wrote:
Also, with a megabore column running at high flows (say 10 ml/min) a 1ml injection is only 12s wide even if it is mixed 1:1 with carrier.
Peter, he specifically states he is using GC-MS. Hard, really hard, to run 10 mL/minute through your GC-MS.
True - I was broadening the scope. Nevertheless, a smaller volume injection with MS-compatible flows has the same logic.
Peter
Re: How do syringe headspacers compare with loop/valve for senst
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 2:47 am
by aldehyde
This depends on application but I have traditionally had better sensitivity with a headspace plumbed directly into the split splitless inlet.