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headspace autosampler: loop vs. syringe vs balanced pressure
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 6:35 am
by brewerbill
I would like to add headspace capability to my lab, mostly for measuring residual solvents in oils. I have seen the excellent review from Restek
here, but although I have personal experience with the "pressure loop" style of headspace unit (Tekmar, Agilent), I have none at all with the "syringe" type (CTC PAL, Gerstel) or the "balanced pressure" type (Perkin Elmer). Can any of you give me some comparisons of the three types of headspace autosampler for this application?
Thanks!
Re: headspace autosampler: loop vs. syringe vs balanced pres
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:44 am
by CE Instruments
Looks like your article gives you quite a good comparison betwen the different methods. None are perfect but they all work. I can't comment regarding the reliability of specific systems but suggest that you consider Dani/Gentech headspace systems. Having spent the last 20 years making the Agilent Headspace units they now make more than one type and are currently supplying Thermo

Buy direct , get the best without the added margin.
Re: headspace autosampler: loop vs. syringe vs balanced pres
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 12:27 pm
by Peter Apps
Having used both loop and syringe types; the I got better performance form the loops. Nevertheless, all the loop headspacers I used (Agilent, VArian/Tekmar, Dani) were compromised by some really poor design and construction issues. I have never used a pressure balanced type.
Peter
Re: headspace autosampler: loop vs. syringe vs balanced pres
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:58 pm
by LindseyPyron
**Disclaimer** EST Analytical provides syringe based systems (
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAX-y_-jULI ) but used to provide both loop and pressure balanced systems.
For most applications, any of the methods will work. There are a few exceptions:
Loop systems in general, can provide higher temperature than Pressure balanced or Syringe based
Loop systems have more surface area and can lead to higher levels of carryover for some applications
Loop and Pressure balanced have transfer lines which can be problematic with carryover and in some case with sulfur compounds.
Syringe systems are more limited in temperature (typically less than 150 degrees C), but can also provide liquid injection, some on board sample prep and SPME capability
Re: headspace autosampler: loop vs. syringe vs balanced pres
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:13 am
by thohry
I have used both loop and syringe. Previously, I always thought loop was better. But recently, when I started to use syringe (CTC PAL) and see that syringe type is just as good in quantitative analysis (if not better), while can be used for liquid injection and applied for both inlets.
Re: headspace autosampler: loop vs. syringe vs balanced pres
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 6:15 pm
by chromatographer1
All are useful.
You need to have experience with your analytical needs to know which works best for you.
Have a vendor develop a method you require and compare results.
Rodney George
Re: headspace autosampler: loop vs. syringe vs balanced pres
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 7:29 pm
by Peter Apps
Hi Rodney
welcome back !
Peter
Re: headspace autosampler: loop vs. syringe vs balanced pres
Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 4:20 pm
by Yama001
Likewise, Rod - been missing your tips here. Hope all is well.