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Switching 5890 FID from Purge and Trap back to Direct Inj.

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:33 pm
by FIDOttawa
Hello I am looking for advice on how to switch a 5890 FID from Purge and Trap back to Direct Injection. Right now it is set up with a packed inlet and a 3000 series concentrator. I guess I just need to know how to set the inlet back up for Direct Injection.

It looks like the setup in the link: http://www.se-source.com/5890packedinjector.htm

Thanks

Re: Switching 5890 FID from Purge and Trap back to Direct In

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:44 pm
by Peter Apps
Are you going to be using a packed column or a capillary ? What do you mean by "direct injection" - are you planning to inject liquid samples rather than headspace ?

Re: Switching 5890 FID from Purge and Trap back to Direct In

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:25 pm
by FIDOttawa
I will be injecting liquid, 1 ul of toluene. Direct as in with a 7673 Autosampler. I will be using a J&W DB-1HT 15m x .32 x .10 capillary column. Helium as carrier.

Re: Switching 5890 FID from Purge and Trap back to Direct In

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:29 am
by Peter Apps
Your first problem is to use a capillary column with a packed inlet. There may be a conversion kit available, or you may need to get a split-splitless inlet, which is the usual hardware for capillary columns. If you really want to inject direct to a capillary column then you need an on-column inlet. If you could use a 530 um diameter column you might be able to use the packed inlet.

Peter

Re: Switching 5890 FID from Purge and Trap back to Direct In

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:00 pm
by FIDOttawa
Ok that was what I was thinking. It is currenly set up with a 30m .53 capillary column. I think we will just try and find a split-splitless inlet to mirror our 6890 split-splitless. We are running quite dirty hydrocarbon samples so I perfer the split-splitless to on-column.

Thanks Peter

Re: Switching 5890 FID from Purge and Trap back to Direct In

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:10 pm
by James_Ball
You can actually have it setup to do both, purge and trap and direct injection if you want to have more versatility in your system. If the transfer line from the purge and trap is tapped into the stainless steel supply line going into the side of the injection port so that you still have access to the septum for injections, then you are ready to go. The carrier gas will just pass through the purge and trap before entering the injection port. If you have the transfer line placed through the septum then you need to replumb the setup.

If you have the first setup I mentioned, then all you must do to remove the purge and trap from the system it find the tubing going from the flow controller on the 5890, out to the purge and trap carrier gas inlet fitting. Remove that line and then use a connector to rejoin it to where the transfer line is attached to the side of the inlet. (these should be the same size lines since most of the time people just cut the normal inlet supply line and rerouted it to the purge and trap then connected the transfer line back to where the line was cut)

I have run the setup before where I had a purge and trap and a tower autosampler on the same column in a 5890 with no problems, using either the direct inject port or the split splitless port. I had one setup to run Gasoline Range Organics by purge and trap FID then inject Diesel Range Organics through the split splitless port without even changing columns. Just need something like a 60m x 0.32mm x 1um film DB5 or DB1 type column.