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furfural
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:09 pm
by sepscientologist
I'm trying to quantitate furfural and methylfurfural on an LCMS using electrospray. Unfortunately, I'm not seeing anything.
Does anyone have a feeling for whether these molecules will ionize by electrospray? Maybe with the right mobile phase
or additive? All suggestions welcome!
Re: furfural
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:16 pm
by rb6banjo
I guess you want to get these in a run with something else you're doing? Those 2 molecules are easy by headspace GC.
Re: furfural
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:32 pm
by sepscientologist
Good point. I do have another compound and it reacts with my stationary phase to produce methylfurfural.
Thus I always see methylfurfural whether it is in my sample or not.
Re: furfural
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:49 pm
by James_Ball
You will probably have to do the DNPH(Dinitrophenylhyriazine) derivatization to get it to elute by HPLC. Look at EPA Method 8315 or 1667 for a procedure. I have analyzed Formaldehyde this way using the LCMSMS before.
Re: furfural
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:01 pm
by Arne
We tried furfural by LCMS and it only gives a weak signal and elutes quite early. SPME works well for us.
Re: furfural
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 2:46 pm
by MSCHemist
Why do Furfural and 5-methyl Furfural on a LC? I see it quite routinely on the GC/MS. FID would work fine as well.
Re: furfural
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:13 pm
by oscarBAL
I think Methyl Furfural could be too volatile for LC MS; when you evaporate MP you could loopsing DMF.
DNPH is good option.
BR
Oscar Cortes
Re: furfural
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:10 am
by Karen01
I've done furfural by LC with just UV detection as well as GC headspace FID... no need for LC/MS!
- Karen
Re: furfural
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:28 pm
by MSCHemist
It should be much cheaper and easier to do it via GC-FID or MS. The only issue I've ever seen is acetic acid and furfural coelute on an Inowax column so use a different column. Save the LC for nonvolitiles. Plus you will have higher sensitivity on the GC.