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Split MSD-FID high N2 and O2 levels
Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 2:31 pm
by schabom
I am currently running a 30m column that is split at the end with a 3 meter at 0.25 retention column going to FID and a 10 meter retention column at 0.1 going to MSD. I'm running into an issue with high N2 levels at around 35-40% and O2 at ~10-13%. Moisture and CO2 are low. The MSD is pumping down and is fairly steady. Is this normal for a MSD that also is venting to enviroment, or am I going to be cleaning every month?
Thanks
Re: Split MSD-FID high N2 and O2 levels
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 6:02 am
by dblux_
I am currently running a 30m column that is split at the end with a 3 meter at 0.25 retention column going to FID and a 10 meter retention column at 0.1 going to MSD. I'm running into an issue with high N2 levels at around 35-40% and O2 at ~10-13%. Moisture and CO2 are low. The MSD is pumping down and is fairly steady. Is this normal for a MSD that also is venting to enviroment, or am I going to be cleaning every month?
Thanks
Nor this, nor that.
You have got leaks on joints of column with restriction tubings - probably.
Or/and MSD sucks N2 and O2 from FID through your 3 m restriction tubing.
As diagnostic measure, increase carrier gas flow through column and check N2 and O2 levels.
Re: Split MSD-FID high N2 and O2 levels
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 6:51 am
by Peter Apps
Leaks at the split point are the most likely problem - what kind of connector are you using ?
To check for backflow from the FID compare the oxygen levels with the hydrogen and makeup flows to the FID on and off - if there is back flow (or back diffusion) you will see less oxygen with the gasses on.
Peter
Re: Split MSD-FID high N2 and O2 levels
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 11:27 am
by dblux_
Don't forget butane from gas lighter when inspecting split connector.
Re: Split MSD-FID high N2 and O2 levels
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 2:10 am
by thohry
I think it's due to the connectors. If the vacuum could suck N2 & O2 from the FID, you would not see a peak of the detector.