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glycerol
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:08 pm
by sepscientologist
Any advice on measuring glycerol? I can measure at high levels but lower levels disapear and it does not appear to be linear.
Perhaps it is decomposing in the inlet at lower levels or?
Any advice would be much appreciated
Re: glycerol
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:22 pm
by MSCHemist
I measure 3-MCPD as one of my primary analyses as I work for a company where HVP is a primary product. It is glycerol with a OH replaced with a Cl on the end. It is a long procedure involving derivitization with HFBI on each of the OH's followed by GC/MS SIM mode. My LOD is about 10ppb.
Re: glycerol
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:29 pm
by chromatographer1
sepscientologist
I would advise you to be a bit more forthcoming in the details of your work if you want any help that would be worth your while, or the time of anyone trying to help you.
One could talk for hours (which here means typing by hand) about possibilities. You don't need a library of methods about every possible matrix that could contain glycerol.
You could be talking about booze, cake mixes, sewer contents, air, gasoline, water supplies, etc.
General advice. Derivitize glycerol.
Don't try to inject it as is
or
this happens:
" I can measure at high levels but lower levels disapear and it does not appear to be linear."
best wishes,
Rod
Re: glycerol
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:05 pm
by sepscientologist
Thanks guys. Looks like derivatization. I will be looking at residual glycerol in biodiesel waste. Currently
all I have tried is standards and they were not linear.
Sounds like I need derivatization.
Thanks!
Re: glycerol
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:34 pm
by Consumer Products Guy
We've used capillary GC with BSTFA derivatization to do this for decades, see "Quantitative Determination of Glycerin in Soap by Capillary Gas Chromatography", JAOCS, Vol. 64, No. 9 (September 1987)
We use this also for liquid products, and for similar materials such as propylene glycol, glycol ethers, sorbitol, etc. Very straightforward and easy. Biodiesel should be no issue this way, can also do mono and diglycerides.
Re: glycerol
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:50 pm
by chromatographer1
Unless your sample has a LOT of water, CPG's suggestion is a good, if not the best, way to go.
Alternatively, TMS-imidazole can tolerate a lot of water.
I would prefer a RI-HPLC method, especially if it is routine, repeated test, but with variable amount of water content.
good luck,
Rod
Re: glycerol
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:54 am
by Consumer Products Guy
The consumer products we deal with can have 90% water, so that is not an issue to us.