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Free trials

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:38 pm
by m3lm4k
Hey guys,

I am new to the forum, so forgive me for making mistakes.

I wanted to ask if you know how to obtain access to some free trials of software to control my HP 5890 GC system?

Your help would be very much appreciated.

Best wishes,
Dawid

Re: Free trials

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 2:54 pm
by CE Instruments
Free trials :shock: What does this mean ?
If you are looking for a demonstration with a view to buy, all the suppliers should be delighted to carry one out.
Where in the world are you ? Have you contacted any vendors ?

Re: Free trials

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 3:01 pm
by m3lm4k
Thanks CE Instruments. I am based at Cambridge, UK.

What I meant by free trials is something like a demo version of the fully functional application.

Re: Free trials

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 3:25 pm
by CE Instruments
Most data systems have a demo mode and you can have a look at them in this mode but it does not work as well as actually trying them. We sell the Clarity data system and you are only an hour from me.
Clarity software and PC from us will be less than £2.5K. We would need to know if your 5890 has analogue or digital outputs. Interested contact me @ richard @ ceinstruments.co.uk (remove gaps) we can sort you a demo / sale or return deal

Re: Free trials

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:06 am
by ACrawshaw
Hi m3lm4k,

I would strongly recommend you consider Chromeleon from ThermoFisher. If you contact your local sales representative (for which I can certainly put you in touch with) I'm sure they would be more than happy to set up an evaluation for you.

http://www.dionex.com/en-us/webdocs/707 ... 200-01.pdf

Thanks

Re: Free trials

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:04 pm
by antonk
UniChrom controls 5890.
Demo-mode allows measurement time of 3 min.

Re: Free trials

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:26 pm
by KM-USA
5890 has been out of support for a while now, so question is: does the GC already have HPIB communication inside it? Does your computer have HPIB/GBIB board or communication to the GC? If so, don't you have a ChemStation license number already? A.06 software was provided free as part of Y2000 fears. And updates to ChemStation software since then don't do much to actually help the user to do his job easier or better (we still use A.06.03 on a few systems).

So apparently you don't even have such older version of ChemStation?

Re: Free trials

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:13 am
by varossf
HI, OpenLAB CDS EZChrom from Agilent controls the 5890 still and is supported officially by Agilent. The software comes with 60 days no-license fully functional.
The million pound question: is your 5890 equipped with the boards RS232 e.g. to communicate with the software??

Please contact your local Agilent representative or drop me an email at freek_varossieau@agilent.com.

Re: Free trials

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:57 am
by dblux_
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The million pound question: is your 5890 equipped with the boards RS232 e.g. to communicate with the software??
...
May I try to answer instead ? Prize is encouraging to take part in this game. :wink:

Re: Free trials

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:52 am
by varossf
LOL

Re: Free trials

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:55 pm
by AICMM
m3lm4k,

Before diving into options, I would ask a couple of questions. First, do you really need to control the GC? That is, are you going to be switching between multiple methods of analysis where you will be changing GC parameters such as temperature programs and pressures? Second, do you want to work at vastly different concentrations for your components of interest? Third, are you figuring on running this system on an autosampler? If all three are yes, then look at all the vendors here who would be willing to sell you software. If yes to all three, then you need to also answer the question about the HP-IB/RS-232 card on the back of the GC since that can change your options.

If the answer to 1, 2, and 3 are no, then the question is one of simply collecting the data rather than controlling things. If that is the case, you have a more options. If 1 and 2 are no but you still don't have an autosampler, you still have options (meaning not just buying a 7673.) If 1 and 3 are no but 2 is a yes you have an interesting problem in that just getting the data out from a 5890 limits you to 0-1V output and ranging.

Not a simple answer, sorry, but in reality not such a simple question. Perfectly willing to expound if you want to abuse yourself some more....

Best regards,

AICMM

Re: Free trials

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:27 pm
by ganesh.patil
DONT TRY CHROMELEON. IT IS THE WORST SOFTWARE I HAVE EVER SEEN IN 19 YRS OF EXPERIENCE. VERY FRUSTRATING. YOU WILL CURSE DEVELOPER EVERY MOMENT WHILE WORKING WITH CHROMELEON.

GOOD LUCK









[quote="m3lm4k"]Hey guys,

I am new to the forum, so forgive me for making mistakes.

I wanted to ask if you know how to obtain access to some free trials of software to control my HP 5890 GC system?

Your help would be very much appreciated.

Best wishes,
Dawid[/quote]

Re: Free trials

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:37 pm
by rumbakis1
"Clarity" can control 5890 and is cheap. Buyers get free software updates.

Chromeleon is one of the best and offers a lot. But for people, that do not wish to get too involved with the analysis I guess there are simpler packages.

"Chromulan" is the only free software I know of, that is capable not only to edit but also to acquire data.