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				Real world
				Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:19 am
				by Alexandre
				Just was reading some forum posts. Ooph… It is like Lavoisier's time. People don’t have access to Internet, no vendor support, and they are trying to fix complex GCs and MSs. Really I want to remove my hat in front of them.
			 
			
					
				Re: Real world
				Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:51 pm
				by tom jupille
				Yes, but they are not losing their heads about it! 

 
			 
			
					
				Re: Real world
				Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:59 pm
				by gcguy
				And to cap it all they get the job done.
			 
			
					
				Re: Real world
				Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:45 pm
				by krickos
				Just looked in to another thread were someone got a new MS instrument (no previous GC MS experiance to mention) to work with, but obviosly the empolyer did not bother to give the user traning/courses (or hiring someone experianced to train staff)......amazing....what do they think?...google it?
			 
			
					
				Re: Real world
				Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:14 am
				by Peter Apps
				No names no pack drill, but some instrument companies make sales by claiming that their hardware can just be plugged in and run by anyone. Paradoxically it is only the labs that have the expertise who know that this is nonsense - it is exactly the labs that cannot run the instruments that fall for this sales pitch.
Peter
			 
			
					
				Re: Real world
				Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:52 pm
				by Kristof
				At my university there was a running gag that new eqipment is so good you put a sample at one end and get research paper on the other. 

 
			 
			
					
				Re: Real world
				Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:01 pm
				by lmh
				There are companies who more-or-less offer that level of service... for an appropriate price!
			 
			
					
				Re: Real world
				Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:37 pm
				by JGK
				Handing a xC-MS-MS unit to an untrained analyst is about as sensible as giving a Bugatti Veyron to an unlicensed driver
			 
			
					
				Re: Real world
				Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:07 am
				by Axar
				I live in developing country and i do have problems with installing and maintaining equipment. It is becouse I forsed to wait a mounth for new consumables and specialists. I have to planing my work ahead and fix many problems by myself. It is very complicated, then you are only GC specialist in laboratory and do not have enougth expirience. And i have to mention, that I broke one GCFID just becouse I forget to remove water from air compressor  
