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Saturation Columns - do they work?

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:48 pm
by John
We run a method using a silica column and pH7.2 mobile phase. A certain school of thought suggests that a saturator column retards the errosion of the analytical column packing. Another school of thought suggests that this is a waste of time.
Wisdom please.

JW

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:26 pm
by DR
Guard columns can work in "sacraficial mode" as long as you remember to replace them before they're gone. They don't eliminate erosion, but they can retard it some (so I am told).

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:36 am
by Uwe Neue
It is not impossible that the solubility of the silica limits your column life, and that this could be fixed by using a saturator column.

On the other hand, the problem of column life could also be due to contamination. In this case, a guard column would serve you best. A guard column actually will have two functions: it will protect the column from dissolution and from contamination. I would go for the guard column approach.

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 11:20 pm
by tom jupille
I have tried the saturator ("precolumn") trick a couple of times -- admittedly years ago. It didn't seem to make any difference.

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 4:59 pm
by John
Thanks for the answers.
Has anyone thought of pre-saturating MP w/ fine silica particles during prep? Filtering afterwards of course.
John

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 10:33 pm
by tom jupille
Not that I'm aware of. I'd worry about that on the chance that the solubility of the silica might decrease (e.g., due to a temperature change), resulting in precipitation of silica where you don't want it. (Hey, just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean that someone's not out to get me! :wink: ).

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:43 pm
by HW Mueller
Don´t you use glass bottles?
(Is this business of protecting main column dissolution with a guard one of the myths of chrom?)

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 8:31 pm
by John
Yes we do use glass bottles. Good point.
Glass is not the same as column silica, however, and doesn't have as much surface area.

You're probably right in that this is a myth. No one has said it has definitely improved the life of their columns.

John

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:53 am
by HW Mueller
But consider the time the stuff spends in the glass bottle vs the time in the guard. On the chemical difference? Glass is certainly "dirtier", probably dissolves more easily??