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TO-13 (PAHs) using PTV inlet

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 3:48 pm
by cjm
Hi all,

I'm setting up a method for PAHs in air (TO-13) on a 7890A/5975C with a gerstel PTV inlet installed. I'm injecting 5uL of dichloromethane solutions into a baffled liner using the solvent vent mode, and my trouble is with one of our extraction surrogates, nitrobenzene-d5. I get very little response, if any. I've tried varying initial inlet temps from 30 down to -30, altering the vent time and flowrate to best vent the dichloromethane, but no appreciable difference in recovery. We're about to get rid of nitrobenzene-d5 altogether and substitute another surrogate that won't be problematic. I hope that I'm not missing something very important setting this method up. With a boiling point of approximately 210, I don't see why this compound should be such a problem.

Re: TO-13 (PAHs) using PTV inlet

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:55 am
by Peter Apps
Is the problem specific to deuterated nitrobenzene ?, are there other similar compounds that you can detect.

If it is compound specific it could be soomething as simple as a SIM mass set slightly wrong.

Peter

Re: TO-13 (PAHs) using PTV inlet

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:25 pm
by cjm
I am seeing response for 1,4-dichlorobenzene-d4 which elutes just before nitrobenzene-d5 in full scan mode. I've made this standard fresh twice now, and now considering rebuilding the inlet..perhaps nitrobenzene-d5 is adsorbing?? More tests to be done...thank you for suggestions.

Re: TO-13 (PAHs) using PTV inlet

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:35 pm
by Peter Apps
Adsorption is certaialy possible - can you see ordinary nitrobenzene, which should suffer in exactly the same way ?. If you extract an ion for D5-nitrobenzene from the TIC you might see a distorted, tailed peak sitting under the TIC baseline.

A slightly unlikely possibility is that 5 ul is too much liquid for the injector - those baffles do not hold onto much sample, so that the sample runs down to the active metal surfaces below the liner. What happens if you inject 1 ul of a 5 x concentration ?

Peter

Re: TO-13 (PAHs) using PTV inlet

Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:22 pm
by cjm
I will try exactly that, injecting 1uL first and see how response compares..I'm pretty certain we have injection speed/vent flow/vent time/injection amount pretty solid, we did tests and showed that with a solvent vent flow of 40mL/min we could only inject 5uL slowly..10uL would "leak" out the bottom of liner before solvent evaporates..I also need to try a new liner, something I'm still waiting to have delivered. I'll let you know what I find..

Re: TO-13 (PAHs) using PTV inlet

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:26 pm
by Samytrump
I also try ptv inlet thanks for suggestions cjm