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ECD - std checks failing

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 7:20 pm
by scbowman
My current problem with my 6890GC is that when we run a series of samples the signal is increasing to such an extent that only one standard check passes after the calibration. We run an external standard calibration before each run and a standard check after every 4 samples. If we are lucky the first check will pass our 20% acceptability range. (Side note: some standards contained in the standard check do actually pass but the majority do not). I will also add that the ECD's inlet was recently completely replaced with new gas lines, gas filters, charcoal filters, the inlet itself, everything. This has happened often enough to become a pattern and I would appreciate some help/suggestions as to how to figure out what is causing this and how we might rectify the situation. Agilent was stumped since the entire inlet system had been recently replaced.

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 1:54 pm
by vballchemist
I had this problem recently on 2 different 5890 systems. (See my post) I think the solution finally came down to cleaning the ECD cells ( and refoiling if necessary) and then giving plenty of bake out/equilibration time for the ECD's to stabilize. How old are your ECD's? When were they serviced last? A Typical symptom of ECD's in need of maintenance is increasing response.
Good Luck

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:00 pm
by scbowman
Thanks for the response. The instrument/ECD were bought from Agilent in 2003. I think my company got them in October of that year. We had a preventive maintenance from Agilent in September 2004, but I don't know that they did anything to service the detectors. I think that they just checked its response, which was fine. Is the maintenance of the detector simply a bakeout for a certain amount of time or do we need to have it serviced by Agilent?

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:24 pm
by vballchemist
If Agilent did PM at your site then they probably did not do a thorough cleaning of the anodes. Depending on usage and sample types being analyzed on the ECD's, 1.5 to 2 years is about the time to clean the cells. I believe Agilent has a program for this. I use CJ Bruyn (check out their web site(http://www.cjbruynco.com), they determine if a cleaning is enough or if the foil needs to be replaced.

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:07 pm
by scbowman
Thanks for the information. I will look into this.