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				I need to analysis something in gel. How to get rid off gel
				Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:38 pm
				by Jady Wang
				I need to analysis methylparaben in gel product by HPLC
I tried to extract methylparaben from gel by methanol, dissolved gel by methanol, the stored at -20 C, centrifuged at 15,800 RPM for  30. I would not get rid off the gel . 
Does anybody have experience to precipitate gel? thanks.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:37 am
				by Consumer Products Guy
				We assay gel samples frequently here, usually blend with organic solvent, then filter through HPLC sample membrane filters. 
If you heat/stir to dissolve, it will likely re-gel.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:43 pm
				by Bryan Evans
				There is an opportunity to do direct injection of gelatin matrix samples with either: 
Cadenza HS-C18 (hydrophopic / hydrophillic hybrid ODS)
http://www.imtaktusa.com/site_media/fil ... TI387E.pdf
OR
Presto FF-C18 (2um non-porous C18):
http://www.imtaktusa.com/site_media/fil ... TI567E.pdf
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				Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:52 pm
				by shaun78
				depending upon the product excipients, you may be better off simply extracting in MeOH over a steam bath...
			 
			
					
				Thanks everyone. It really help!!!!!!!
				Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:34 pm
				by Jady Wang
				Thanks everyone. It really help!!!!!!!  
Jady
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 8:22 pm
				by MestizoJoe
				Jady I'm curious, which way worked for you?
			 
			
					
				Re: I need to analysis something in gel. How to get rid off 
				Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:32 pm
				by zdravkam
				Hi  everybody  
 
Please help...
I am new here and completely freshly new in HPLC.
My expertise is formulation, not so much analytical techniques  
 
My problem is similar to Jadys. 
I have some drugs (poorly water solubles, like indomethacin) in gelatin and I should analyze them by HPLC.
So how exactly to get rid of the gelatin? I taught of precipitating and  filtering it. But which solvent to use?
And at which temperature to heat?
I have this column : LiChrospher® 60 RP-select (5 µm)
Could I use it, since I am not sure we could buy new one, like Bryan suggested: Cadenza HS-C18 (hydrophopic / hydrophillic hybrid ODS) ? 
Thank you all for help
 
			 
			
					
				Re: I need to analysis something in gel. How to get rid off 
				Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:09 pm
				by Consumer Products Guy
				Blend with solvent that your active is soluble in.  Filter.  Simple is usually best.
			 
			
					
				Re: I need to analysis something in gel. How to get rid off 
				Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:40 pm
				by cody84
				Hey, I'm having a similar issue.  Developing method for CHG related compounds in a gel product.  The problem is I need to dilute the gel 50% to get the correct concentrations I'm looking for.  I need to be able to inject a preparation that has 2mg/ml.
I don't have much experience in sample prep development beyond dilution in diluent, etc.  
The gel is extremely viscous, so when mixing 50:50 with diluent....not all that much happens.
Any suggestions for how I should go about this?
Sorry to hijack the thread, but same problem I guess.  

 
			 
			
					
				Re: I need to analysis something in gel. How to get rid off
				Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:38 pm
				by Consumer Products Guy
				Hey, I'm having a similar issue.  Sorry to hijack the thread, but same problem I guess.  

We assay gel samples frequently here, usually blend with organic solvent, then filter through HPLC sample membrane filters. If you heat/stir to dissolve, it will likely re-gel.
What I posted above.  Twice.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: I need to analysis something in gel. How to get rid off 
				Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:23 pm
				by cody84
				yea, that's not working..
			 
			
					
				Re: I need to analysis something in gel. How to get rid off
				Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:50 pm
				by Consumer Products Guy
				yea, that's not working..
Then it's time to hit the bench and earn your keep !!!
 
			 
			
					
				Re: I need to analysis something in gel. How to get rid off 
				Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:10 pm
				by cody84
				haha, I'm hittin the computer to do the Reseach part of my job, just exhausting all possibilities before I hit the bench 

 
			 
			
					
				Re: I need to analysis something in gel. How to get rid off
				Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:15 pm
				by cody84
				when mixing 50:50 with diluent....not all that much happens.
And FYI ^^^  As you can see from my first post I already tried what you suggested.  Twice.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: I need to analysis something in gel. How to get rid off 
				Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:30 pm
				by Consumer Products Guy
				Have you tried freezing the sample then pulverizing?
Have you tried different solvents and mixtures?