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Active hydrogens in PEG columns?

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 1:53 pm
by Tremenda
Dear All,

I would like to inject some MBDSTFA (derivatising agent) into a CP Wax 52 CB column composed of 100% of polyethylene glicol.

Glicols are, of course, alcohols, however, in the form of a polymer inside a column, do they still contain free alcohol groups and, therefore, they cannot be used with derivatising agents?


Regards

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:03 pm
by chromatographer1
Yes they do have hydroxyl functional groups and no you SHOULD not use derivitizing agents on this column. But if you do, you will have a unique column which may vary with time in selectivity and polarity and will probably never have reproducible results from day to day.

best wishes,

Rodney George

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:38 pm
by Tremenda
Thanks for your reply

Does that mean that a PEG column in which MBDSTFA has been injected is basically destroyed and needs to be disposed of?

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:09 pm
by chromatographer1
You could wash it in a methanol wash and try to recover it for purely trial and error purposes, like if you wanted to see if a known volatile was present in a sample.

But practically, in a situation where I wanted to report results, it is not functional for research.

(To save money.......

Of course, you might try using it for a known analysis and see if it performs the separation. Just always report the column as a modified CP-Wax column.)

Good luck,

Rodney George

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:58 pm
by Tremenda
And just to make sure:

A 100% Dimethypolylsiloxane column should be fine with derivatising agents. Is this correct?

Thanks again

Regards

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:18 pm
by chromatographer1
Any silicone column with an active functional group of methyl, or propyl, or phenyl, or octyl, or biphenyl should be ok.

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:21 pm
by Consumer Products Guy
And just to make sure:

A 100% Dimethypolylsiloxane column should be fine with derivatising agents. Is this correct?

Thanks again

Regards
Yes.