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dmso/acetic acid

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:10 am
by gcguy
I am developing a method to seperate dmso and acetic acid. I have moved onto using HPLC for the seperation as the presence DMSO interferes with the acetic acid peak on GC (spliting). I have looked at various C18 and few other columns and have found the best seperation to be on either a Luna or a C8 Zorbax. I am using acetonitrile and water, both with added phosphoric acid. I have tried methanol as well.
I am not getting a suitable seperation, almost but not quite good enough. The sample is about 70% DMSO and about 0.1% acetic acid. I need to determine the acid level.
Any ideas?

GCguy

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:17 am
by Peter Apps
HI GC guy

What column did you use for the GC ? I get a good separation of dimethyl sulphoxide at about 24 min and acetic acid at about 22 min on a Restek megabore wax column programmed from 30C at 5C/min with hydrogen as carrier at about 12 ml/min. This is from purge and cryotrap samples of African wild dog urine - if you have a nice liquid sample it should be straightforward.

Peter

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:36 am
by gcguy
Peter,

I agree it is relatively easy to seperate dmso and acetic acid by GC. The problem we were getting was that the acetic acid peak was splitting, this varied as the amount of dmso increased. There are other components in the sample, this may have lead to the issue in the first place.

It would be possible to do the residual acetic using IC but I would rather set up a "standard" hplc method.

GCguy

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:44 am
by Peter Apps
OK, let's see what the LC experts come up with.

Peter

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:38 pm
by Uwe Neue
Very polar compounds, so I would go with HILIC - silica column, 80% acetonitrile, 20% water, maybe with phosphoric acid if the acetic acid is too retained without it.

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:53 am
by HW Mueller
gcguy, you do not need to quantify the DMSO? I would think your problem is the ~700x excess of DMSO, so I would use the huge chemical difference between the two, namely that acetic acid is easily dissociated (ionized), so maybe ion exchange should do it.

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:31 am
by gcguy
For information,

I seem to have got this working now. I am using a C4 column from ACE. ACN/water with phosphoric acid.
Nice seperation in about 5 minutes. :D

GCguy

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:10 pm
by ym3142
GCguy,

What is your k'?

Thanks for sharing,

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:30 pm
by gcguy
I am getting a k' of about 0.59.

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:32 pm
by ym3142
Thanks, GCGUY