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Make-up gas FID detector
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:36 am
by Loys74
Hi!
Does someone already have result variability depending make-up gas used (He and N2) and make-up gas flow?
Thanks!
Re: Make-up gas FID detector
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 6:55 pm
by cjm
You may see a difference in baseline depending on the gas used. We use nitrogen makeup and set column + makeup = constant = 30 mL/min. This has always worked well for us. If using helium it may be cost effective to switch to nitrogen.
Re: Make-up gas FID detector
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 7:46 am
by nipe
The construction of modern flame detectors is the same as for old FID for packed columns and relations for carrier gas/H2/air: 1:1:10 is the same also. Because total flows of FID are classic also: 30ml/min carrier (capillary column+make-up) and H2, and 300 mi/min - air. Carrier gas for column and make-up are wishing the same also.
Re: Make-up gas FID detector
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 12:59 pm
by Peter Apps
There is (old) literature on this. The signal:noise is better with nitrogen because its higher MW enhances the thermal fragmentation and ionisation of analyte molecules (basically they spend more time in the reaction zone at he base of the flame). Given the terrible proce of helium it makes no sense to use it instead of nitrogen as makeup.
Re: Make-up gas FID detector
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 11:06 pm
by hcs
Using a make N2 as make up gas increases the sensitivity by ~2 times compared to no make up gas. I have no experience with He as make up gas.