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Troubleshooting - Your thoughts welcome!

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:57 pm
by Travisdog2
Hi,

I am heavily reliant on a GC-MS for my research work and for that reason, I tend to try to be reasonably conservative/careful in order to minimise downtime which (as a heavy user) hits me hard. I normally develop basic methods on FID and then move to GC-MS, keeping my sample concentrations for splitless at or below 50 PPM where I can. A colleague who is supposedly 'very experienced' at GC recently decided to run a bunch of quite viscous samples through our GC-MS at 'PPM concentrations' with no solvent delay after assuring our technicians that it would be fine.

As it turned out the dilutions were way off (they turned out to be at parts per hundred level!) and this led to quite a bit of downtime due to the filaments burning out, the technicians having to spend a lot of time cleaning the source etc. and various other issues.

It's now back up and sort of running, but sensitivity is way, way down. After running an inlet leak detection/restriction test, it would appear that there is a whopping 50ml/min leak in the injector.

My interpretation of this result (which is repeatable) is that the split valve is not closing properly, possibly down to being clagged up with the viscous sample referred to earlier in this post, leading to my splitless runs not being splitless at all. The other thing that I think might support this idea, is that the liner seems remarkably easy to remove and put back in - it normally needs a bit time to work its way down and requires a little bit of force, presumably as any gas in the inlet which is being displaced would normally have to works its way around and through the new liner.

Does this interpretation sound right, or is there perhaps something else that I haven't considered?

Many thanks for any thoughts on this.

TD2

Re: Troubleshooting - Your thoughts welcome!

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:56 am
by antonk
Looks like your assumptions gone right way.

Maybe for testing:
1. Create splitless method
2. Physically seal the split line (with a stub) before valve.
3. Inject 0.2 - 0.5 mkl

The response should be significantly bigger than one with normal 1:5 split

Re: Troubleshooting - Your thoughts welcome!

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:24 pm
by VLB123
What type of GC-MS are you using?

How did you determine that the leak is at the inlet?

Re: Troubleshooting - Your thoughts welcome!

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 2:26 pm
by Travisdog2
Many thanks or the responses and apologies for not getting back...

The problem now appears to be resolved. Whilst I would love to be able to provide something of value for the community, I'm afraid that I can't. The engineer (who I missed) obviously realized that the issue was injector related and just changed out the entire injector for a new one. Great result but sadly not much to be learned!