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GPC Column Set Is Trash After 0-100 Injections

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 7:09 pm
by nsparks2006
I have been running polymer samples on a combined column set consisting of 2 Agilent PLgel Mixed C columns(5um) in line with 1 Waters Styragel HR-2 column (5um). We have been running on an old PerkinElmer system, and a new Agilent HPLC. Our problem persists on both instruments. The problem is, that we are required to use a polymer control sample for suitability. The Mw of the sample should be 110KDa +/_ 5%. Even though our plate counts are always above our 25000 criteria, the control sample often fails. It is typically too high. There are times when we put a brand new column set on the system and the control sample still fails. When it does work, we very rarely get a set that will last longer than 100 injections. Our mobile phase is chloroform (unfiltered, Fisher Optima), and we run at a flow rate of 1ml/min. We prepare samples in chloroform with a toluene flow rate marker. Has anyone else had an issue with a lack of column life similar to this?

Re: GPC Column Set Is Trash After 0-100 Injections

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:53 am
by Gerhard Kratz
Both column brands are excellent.
My first question is, at what columns temperature do you run the test.
Why you use unfiltered Chloroform?
First of all I would use always filtered clean solvents.
Also I would use a guard column.

Depending on the samples the number of injections is always relative.

Re: GPC Column Set Is Trash After 0-100 Injections

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 4:32 pm
by nsparks2006
Thank you for your response.
We are running our method at 40°C.
We filtered our chloroform at one point in time, but we stopped because it was not a very efficient process. We are using a brand that is already submicron filtered, and we performed comparison studies that showed no difference in results.
We do use a guard column.
We are 95% of the time running just polymer samples. A mix of 7525, 5050 or 8515 with various endgroups. We occassionally run microparticles or active ingredients.
Historically, we would get about a 2 month column life, running 2 runs a week. Now we are lucky if the column lasts for 2 runs. Sometimes we put brand new columns on the system and we don't even get a control check to pass, and they go straight into the trash.
One interesting thing is that when this first started happening on a regular basis, I had 2 sets that failed right away. I refused to throw them away because I just felt like it was impossible that they both failed like that. They sat in chloroform at room temperature for probably 2 months or maybe more. I put them back on a system out of desperation, because I had run out of new sets. And those 2 column sets lasted for about a year after that with no issues lol...I don't understand why that would happen, but maybe you may have some guesses? I have not repeated that process since then, because I couldn't remember exactly how long I had let them sit...Also, we are under a lot of pressure to produce test results, so I don't have a lot of time for experimentation. Limited by time as well as instrumentation.

Re: GPC Column Set Is Trash After 0-100 Injections

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:31 pm
by TylerSmith123
Hi nsparks,

Could you describe a bit more about your "failure" or "trash" conditions? What is happening to the columns that makes them trash or failed, is it a difference in RT or like an overwhelming back-pressure issue, or is it more like all retention is being lost?

Thanks,
TS