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Internal standard inconsistent response

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2023 2:36 pm
by SherryGC-MS
Hi all
I have issue with my method on HS-SPME, the ISTD that I use shows inconsistent results! I spiked 3 samples to check recovery of them and ISTD is different in all those 3! sample matrix and every thing is the same. I desorb the fiber for 8min on column and after have 5min post desorb conditioning.
Is it the fiber? what I'm missing?
Your help is highly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

Re: Internal standard inconsistent response

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2023 2:41 pm
by rb6banjo
Liquid or solid sample? What analyte(s)? Chromatographic conditions?

If sample is liquid, what happens if you sample just water and your internal standard? I always try to go back and start as simply as possible to rule out the GC system itself as a problem. After I'm sure the instrument is performing as it should, I try to figure out the issues I have with the sample or sampling.

Re: Internal standard inconsistent response

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:43 am
by SherryGC-MS
Liquid or solid sample? What analyte(s)? Chromatographic conditions?

If sample is liquid, what happens if you sample just water and your internal standard? I always try to go back and start as simply as possible to rule out the GC system itself as a problem. After I'm sure the instrument is performing as it should, I try to figure out the issues I have with the sample or sampling.
Hi
Liquid samples. It's not the instrument, I am mot sure if its the sample matrix, splash of sample on fiber or what. Lets say if I inject 20 samples 3 of them, randomly show higher conc. this is happening in wine samples ( I'm assuming it's due to the ethanol in the sample as same method with grape juice is doing ok) but how can I cancel the effect of ethanol?

Re: Internal standard inconsistent response

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:19 pm
by rb6banjo
I feel your pain. Beer is my matrix and ethanol is always there. In beer, however, it's more dilute so I don't see it as being as big a problem.

Are you looking for trace levels of your analytes or could you live with some dilution of the sample? If wine is ~13%, 2:5 dilution gets you to 5%. Something that's 100 ppb in the wine is still 40 ppb in the dilution.

Sometimes, if you dilute the solvent-based sample (like beer, wine, and spirits) with water, you improve the partitioning behavior of your analyte - favoring the headspace. The effects of the dilution are not as detrimental to your ability to detect your analyte as they might seem at first thought.

Re: Internal standard inconsistent response

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:49 pm
by James_Ball
Are all the samples the same % alcohol or do some have higher and some lower and does the enhanced ISTD recovery equate to either?

If the high recovery equates to the high %alcohol, do you make the standards in a similar %alcohol?

As above, dilution can help make the matrix more equal or you have to make the standard matrix match the sample matrix.