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Chiral in Mass Spec
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:10 am
by MS_chrom
I know enanatiomers and diastereomers will have similar parent mass and daughters. Is there any other way to differentiate them, such as labelling with chiral reference?
Can anyone share their experience to differentiate chiral compounds in Mass Spec? TIA
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:16 am
by lmh
true chirals are very difficult. I did see, somewhere, a reference that idenitifed the chirality of amino acids by their ability to form cluster ions with other amino acids of known chirality. Sorry, I can't remember where it was, and it was such a weird concept I don't seem to have kept it in my mass spec references folder.
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:39 pm
by thohry
It's better to pay effort on the analytical column. There are chiral columns available.
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 4:10 am
by chemstation
As you mentioned in your first line, there is the option of Chiral derivatising reagents, (if your compound will derivatise).
http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/analytical- ... ge=9657462
So you don't need to swap out an GC, or if you used a chiral column as well as the chiral reagent, the retention time difference, theoretically, should be even greater.
Alex
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:18 am
by HW Mueller
Chemstation, what is the "theory" behind getting better separation when using chiral derivatization reagents + chiral columns?
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:38 am
by chemstation
Hi HW Mueller,
my theoretical reasoning, is based on the following premise, (ignoring racemix products) that the function group that gets derivatised, is attached to the chiral centre, so that new stereo structure of the compound will interact with different affinity with the stationary phase.
eg if for the two new structures, one is "ball shape" and the other "flatter" then the amount interaction with the station phase, whether it be polar or otherwise, will be different, it is this difference that may affect the enthalpy enough, so as to be visible as a different elution time.
another REMOTE and unlikely possiblity could be that if the function group that gets derivatised, is NOT attached to the chiral centre, then the natural stereo structure that forms (cluster), due to the electrostatic attractions and repulsions being greater that the rotational energy the bonds are receiving from the heat of the GC , Whilst eluting down the column, though I doubt this very much.
Alex
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 10:04 am
by HW Mueller
What does anything of this, even if viable, have to do with the chirality of a column?