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HP/Agilent 5890 Data Apex Clarity "OVER" signal

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 4:23 pm
by Alps_hiker
Hi all,

Our Data Apex Clarity software that we use on our HP 5890 GC-FID has started showing the "OVER" signal, and just displaying a response at some 8kV, well in excess of the typical baseline.

I suspect it may be a communication issue, but the last time by re-specifying the COM Ports again has not cleared up the issue.

Any ideas on how to restore the normal operating conditions again?

Many Thanks

Re: HP/Agilent 5890 Data Apex Clarity "OVER" signal

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:18 pm
by MichaelVW
What does the signal on the instrument's display read at?

There is a setting under Method -> Acquisition where you can set the Range and rate. Maybe that got changed?

In any case, Data Apex has always been good about emailing me back when I had questions, so you might just want to talk to them directly.

Re: HP/Agilent 5890 Data Apex Clarity "OVER" signal

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:13 am
by Alps_hiker
Hi,

The signal is displaying a non-fluctuating response of 8kV.

I looked at changing the Range (set at 10,000mV) to something lower (156mV), but it has had no effect.

The rate is not able to be changed at 10Hz.

I have e-mailed Data Apex Support for assistance.

If there are any other ideas, please let me know,

Thanks.

Re: HP/Agilent 5890 Data Apex Clarity "OVER" signal

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:45 pm
by uzman
The FID detector seems short circuit , you may disassemble the detector and clean it.

Re: HP/Agilent 5890 Data Apex Clarity "OVER" signal

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:28 pm
by James_Ball
Hi,

The signal is displaying a non-fluctuating response of 8kV.

I looked at changing the Range (set at 10,000mV) to something lower (156mV), but it has had no effect.

The rate is not able to be changed at 10Hz.

I have e-mailed Data Apex Support for assistance.

If there are any other ideas, please let me know,

Thanks.
Definitely sounds like a problem with the detector and not the software.

Re: HP/Agilent 5890 Data Apex Clarity "OVER" signal

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 10:03 am
by Alps_hiker
Hi all,

Fortunately, following advice from our instrument service contractors, the problem was moisture droplets in the FID, which resulted in the short-circuit and the maximum signal being constantly displayed (8kV).

Thanks for your advice on the issue.