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PDA detector parameters

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:09 pm
by offroad
dear friends...

[quote]The Surveyor PDA Plus Detector is a photodiode array detector that is capable of scanning the UV/Vis range from 190 to 800 nm. In addition to collecting scan data, the detector is capable of simultaneously collecting up to three discrete channels. You can use this capability to set the bandwidth and data rate parameters for the discrete channels separately from those of the scan data.[/quote]

Question: why do we need to set 3 discrete channels? if the PDA scans from 190 to 800, why do we set (discrete) wavelengths like 254? 260?

Thank you.

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:02 am
by tom jupille
Question: why do we need to set 3 discrete channels?
Answer:
You can use this capability to set the bandwidth and data rate parameters for the discrete channels separately from those of the scan data.
Admittedly, not something that most people would want or need.

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:16 am
by offroad
Yes, but as I understood, the software needs at least one channel to show us the spectra, chromatogram etc, like this one below (with 3 channels). The software allows us to set 3 different channels.
click to see picture

What if I dont set any channel, how will the software give me any collected data?

Thank you.

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:58 am
by offroad
is it because such channels might get us the best results?

thank you.

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:02 am
by tom jupille
I don't have any "hands-on" experience with that detector. As a general comment, many instruments (and software, for that matter) have "features" that very few people actually use. :wink:

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:31 am
by grzesiek
"is it because such channels might get us the best results?" - ask the PDA producer/provider or check on your own samples and methods

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:30 pm
by offroad
Thank you very much. :wink:

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:50 pm
by Ron
In many cases a PDA is purchased for use to determine the concentration of a few components. In this case it is usually easier to set up channels on a PDA and use it as a multiple wavelength UV detector.

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:30 am
by lmh
Tom's answer (as usual) was correct.

The point is that you can use the discrete wavelength channels to produce data at a very fast rate so you get many measured points across a chromatographic peak, at the wavelengths you intend to use for quantification. Many points across peak means accurate quantification.

Meanwhile you can use a much slower rate of collecting spectra, and the spectra can be used to confirm that you have the expected UV spectrum for the expected product. Collecting full spectra as fast as you collect individual wavelength measurements would be too much data for some elderly systems to handle.

In our less-than-cutting-edge LC-MS system, if we collect MS data and UV spectral data as fast as we would like, we encounter the occasional inexplicable system crash, so I do indeed use this feature of the Surveyor detector from time to time.