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Is SFC really supercritical?

Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:32 am
by Arne
Hi All

we are running an SFC system with good success in our lab. I am suspecting that in reality we are doing subcritical chromatography or that our system becomes subcritical (liquid) during gradients.

Our standard method is at 30°C, which is below the Tc of pure CO2.

From a publication (J. Chem. Eng. Data 2000, 45, 932-935) it appears that the ciritcal temperature rises as alcohols are added. For 15% methanol it is approximately 50°C.

Am I getting something wrong?

What are the effects of crossing the Tc during a gradient method at 40°C and 5-40% MeOH?

Re: Is SFC really supercritical?

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:38 pm
by Arne
I guess it wasn't a trivial question since there are no replies. ;)

Re: Is SFC really supercritical?

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 8:16 pm
by tom jupille
I guess it wasn't a trivial question since there are no replies.
Ok, here's a reply to render it non-trivial :roll:

Actually, saying it's of "academic interest" is probably more accurate than "trivial". SFC is not a wildly popular technique in the first place. You make a good point, but there are probably not many people who are into SFC enough to care. :cry:

Re: Is SFC really supercritical?

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 3:17 pm
by itspip
The effects may not be known and that could be an area of academic interest. Provided there are no published papers in the area.

Re: Is SFC really supercritical?

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:21 pm
by DR
Are you neglecting the pressure aspect?
What is subctitical at a given temp. can become supercritical when enough pressure is applied...

Re: Is SFC really supercritical?

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:28 am
by Arne
Thank you for the input!

regarding the comment by DR:

If you look at the phase diagram of CO2, increasing the pressure on liquid CO2 below its supercritical temperature of 31°C would just eventually turn it solid but never supercritical. The critical temperature does not depend on the pressure.

Maybe I will conduct some research work then...when the days in the lab have 25 hours that is. ;)