Chromatography Forum

Hi, all -

We came into a large number of Waters 12x32mm HPLC vials recently. However, we only have Agilent 1100 systems (with G1313 autosamplers and trays). Does anyone have any experience trying to use these vials on Agilent systems? They LOOK like they'll fit, but I really don't want to have to spend money repairing a broken autosampler arm, or some other part, just because I got some free vials.

Thanks.

EM

Waters older autosamplers (WISPs) used two different sized vials that will not work in an Agilent autosampler, but these vials are both at least 4CM tall.

I think 12x32mm is a pretty standard size, nearly universal among modern autosamplers and used by Waters Alliance systems as well as by Agilent 1100 and 1200 series units.

note - the grippers on Agilent samplers generally prefer vials that have little or no ridge at the bottom of the caps. Significant ridges, especially on shorter vial caps can lead to alignment issues.

12 x 32 is pretty standard, should have no issues with 1100 G1313 autosamplers, they use the 3-finger grip system.

Now if you were talking about the Agilent 7673-type GC autosamplers which gripped UNDER the cap, then you'd need to make sure the gripper "fingers" fit into the recess when the vials were capped...

we have used waters vials (still use in some cases...) in agilent system (for record both in 1100 and 1200 series) with and without its cap without any problems....

I would call Agilent or VWR to find compatability. My regular Waters 2695 Alliance vials technically work on our HP 1050 autosampler, never had a problem. But, I later found out that I should use a 12x32 vial with a cap designed with a wider opening.

The other thing that messes up Agilent 1100 autosamplers is vials with large lids with a sharp edge at the top. The three-fingered grabber tends to catch the edge of adjacent vials as it goes down, and this puts a horrible strain on the arm. Vials with smaller caps and nice curvy edges are either not touched, or just rock slightly out of the way.