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				FID response difference between two Agilent 7890A GC!
				Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:00 am
				by bily200677
				Hello, everyone! Currently , we do valiations work on residual solvent method by Agilent 7890A GC system . There are two same instrument in our lab. Yesterday , we did the intermdate precision test using another 7890A ,but today morning , we found the object peaks had higher response in the second 7890A system . Compare these dates , we found the peaks height and area are about 
three ~four time of the first instrument!  Note , the concentration of the standard solutions  are same , the column are the same one  , the condition are same , only the instrument is different!  i am confused by these data,   what's the reason?
  Anyone had this experience ? or any advice for me?
  thank a lot!
  bily
    

 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:02 am
				by Consumer Products Guy
				Split ratios could be different, air/hydrogen/auxiliary gas to detector could be different.  Column protrosion through ferrule into inlet could be different.  Syringe sizes could be different even if softmare setting matches.  Good hunting.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:15 pm
				by Schmitty
				Also range and attenuation differences.  If you are collecting with Millennium/Empower, there may also be a difference in the instrument method used, i.e. the scaling factor.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:41 am
				by krickos
				Hi
Adding sealing of the headspace vials as a possible issue.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:27 pm
				by at_om
				Hi Bily!
I already transferred methods from a 6890 to a 7890 both with FID and had very similar area results. Is the autosampler also identical? Sample introduction in inlet could make a difference. Is the column distance in inlet and detector the same length in both instruments? You really have to check all the method parameters.
Good luck!
Regards,
At_om
			 
			
					
				thanks a lot to all
				Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:35 am
				by bily200677
				Firstly , i should say "thanks"  to everyone who provided the helpful advises for me !  this problem i think must be somthing wrong in the second instrument . Even if the everything seem  good in the second 7890A , but check the past chromatogram and data, the second instrument performace was normal . SO , I think the second instrument went wrong. Now, we ready to do this test in another 6890GC ( because the second 7890A is not availble now), i believe the results will be acceptable !
  thanks you all again !
  bily