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Peak split on only 1st compound

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:06 pm
by Mike H.
What are the less common reasons the first peak of a gradient could split? We're running a basic TFA/MeoH MP gradient and are seeing that the first peak splits. MS suggests it's one compound. We are using MP as the diluent. Also we have noticed that if we drop temp. to 40° from 55°, the peak split goes away. Also we have eliminated degradation since we aged a sample at 55°for 30 min and tested it. It splits at 55°, but doesn't at 40°.

How likely is it that the MP temp being ambient and the column temp being 55° could cause a problem? Has anyone experienced this? If so what did you do about it? thx

Re: Peak split on only 1st compound

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 6:45 am
by Gerhard Kratz
Temperature difference MP vs. column temperature can cause that. MP bottles in an water bath set at the same temperature will eliminate that problem.

Re: Peak split on only 1st compound

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:10 pm
by Vlad Orlovsky
Your peak might be too close to the void and you have a mismatch between your diluent and mobile phase initial point of gradient. I would suggest to move peak or/and may be try to inject less.

Re: Peak split on only 1st compound

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:20 pm
by Gaetan Glauser
Do you have an active pre-heater ahead of your column?

Re: Peak split on only 1st compound

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:38 pm
by Mike H.
No, but it actually was one of the common problems. Solvent diluent was too strong for MP. After I switched to MeOH/Water no peak split. I'm an idiot.

Re: Peak split on only 1st compound

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:52 pm
by Consumer Products Guy
No, but it actually was one of the common problems. Solvent diluent was too strong for MP. After I switched to MeOH/Water no peak split. I'm an idiot.
Good.

Smaller injection volume also can remedy this. We frequently extracted products with solvents "stronger" than the mobile phase.

Re: Peak split on only 1st compound

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:26 pm
by Vlad Orlovsky
We sometimes prepare a much higher concentration of sample is some totally different than MP diluent (waxes in hexane, lipids in THF/EtOH) and inject 0.5-2 uL. Mixed-mode columns can tolerate a bigger discrepancy between MP and diluent.