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Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 12:16 pm
by avitan
Vlad, thank you, sir :D

Probably our server was down, on Tuesday, i'll be back and respond.

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 4:02 am
by SIELC_Tech
Hi Avitan,

Here is two methods for you: one is UV and another one is LC/MS/ELSD compatible.
Toluidines are retained by combination of reverse phase and ion exchange mechanisms. ACN will have the same effect on toluidines as in reverse phase chromatography. In order to use ion-exchange mechanism and decrease retention time you need to increase buffer concentration, if you would like to increase retention time then decrease buffer concentration.

http://www.sielc.com/application_120.html

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Regards,

Vlad

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 4:36 pm
by Rob Burgess
I haven't got a reference but porous graphitic carbon (tradename: Hypercarb) may also work.

Use these words (and your compound names) in a "literature search" and you should come up with some starting conditions.

RESULTS

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:48 pm
by avitan
Rob, thank you for your answer :)

Well, some results:

I've achived baseline-to-baseline separation for mixture at low concentration level on Phenyl column (one of YMC Pack and one Inertsil Phenyl-3 ), but when I injected sample at 100% it covers all three of them.

SiELC application (see 2 posts above) simply works. Great selectivity - plenty of posibilities to play with parameters :D , again, thank you, Vlad!

If I'll do some additional experiments, this section wil be updated...

Thanx for all discussion participants. I've learned a lot :wink: ...

toluidine isomers

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:35 pm
by domenger
Have you tried an other RP column?
We have a PFP Fluophase column ( pentafluorophenyl) giving the separation of these three isomers.
Do you want me to send it to you?

Thierry :)

TOLUIDINE ISOMERS

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:40 pm
by domenger
I made a mistake; the application is on a RP Fluophase column ( C6 perfluorinated C6 bonding).
We also have the Hypercarb column ( Porous Graphitic Carbon) that may solve the problem. We have so many applications on this particular column about isomers
More informations about Hypercarb column?

Thierry :)

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:25 pm
by avitan
domenger, thank you for your reply and, yes, please, e-mail it to me. :)

I've had unsucsessful try with toluidines on FSP-RP column before ... [/b]

I second the normal phase approach...

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 2:05 am
by ljc
If you're willing to try normal phase, do the following:

Supelcosil "DIOL-like" DIOL column (don't know what DIOL like means, but that's what is in their catalog) We use this for a variety of NP methods and find them very rugged and reproducible.

0.25% IPA/1% Butyl Chloride in Heptane at 1 mL/min and 35 deg C (or some stabilized T around there)

UV detection (254 nm I think)

We use this to separate various aniline derivatives, but it might separate the positional isomers in your problem. NP is often good for that.

Normql Phase

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 8:46 pm
by avitan
Thank you, ljc, that's interesting approach too :D