Most Friendly Software/Interface/Control Package?

[antonk]

Do you have any people who can adopt your software to our hardware? How much something like that would cost?

Yes, we are developers.
Adaptation cost depends on number of hardware-abstraction drivers we have to develop.
To measure - we need to know you hardware specifications (at least preliminary) and complexity of data-controlling protocols.
Please write to unichrom at unichrom dot com. If possible accompany your question with instruments details and specs.

[benW]

Hi,
Interestingly, it appears Waters are working on mobile apps for their Empower software… perhaps not such a bad choice?

Whilst I agree with some of Unmgvar’s post earlier – mostly that you need a very good trainer for Empower, some points are not so accurate…

Oracle is good, but expensive to purchase and complex to maintain.

There are no additional costs for the Oracle database with Empower as the Oracle database is embedded in Empower as standard and preconfigured by the installer (therefore not complex to maintain). However you could use your own Oracle license and configure it to suit your enterprise environment – this has made it very powerful for larger enterprise sites.

also empower has only recently made the effort to move to citrix.

Not correct, as Empower has been supported on Citrix for over ten years!

oracle tables, and empower data is in there also. so big labs actually waste time re-allocating table space to the different projects as they get filled.

Empower data is not stored in the database and does not contribute to filling up the projects. The metadata is stored in the database. The behaviour of projects constantly reaching their quota limit is at the hands of the project administrator and how the projects were initially created. Some administrators use project quota as a way of limiting project size and agreed, this is very disruptive and not to be recommended.

the most annoying bug ever from millenium to empower is the password login window.
for every single opened window you need to retype the password, just because.

This is not a bug, but the consequence of how your system policies where configured. Your system policies were set to lock inactive windows after a set number of minutes period of inactivity (or the user chose to do this when closing down) and so you needed to unlock them when you came back.
To accommodate for users that did not like the multiple windows of Millennium, Waters created the QuickStart single window interface - available as standard in Empower.

but you still wasted the time for that second mouse click.

Actually for one fix, I believe an additional mouse click was removed due to the amount of extra time it would add to all users' workflow

Just thought I would set the record straight

[unmgvar]

benw
if you look at Chromeleon 7.1, you will see that also there you have the possibility to select that all windows be locked after a certain time of unuse
so you are requested to enter the password, but you need to do it for every window in empower. you need to do it only once for chromeleon. so why not in empower? because waters does not care to program it, and they were asked about it. and not they have not fixed it yet.
and the one window interface is a nice copy from chromeleon

the data limit allocation per project, needs to be reset manually for each project. no way to do it globally and even automatically. why? because waters does not care to program it. and they were asked to do it.

if you compare between the different data bases available you get to understand that oracle is the most complex to manage. oracle client servers require someone that has a good knowledge of them for any CDS regardless, because it is more complex.
Waters choose for you.
in chromeleon you have the choice for client server, and for the stand alone you get the simple windows mdb for 6.8 or the 7 you use the sql express.
you do pay for the oracle when you purchase the software. and for CM in stand alone you can use the free provided windows data base.
and some of the data from the software is stored directly on the data base, not only the meta data. and data is not only the chromatograms.

[Klaus I.]

benw
if you look at Chromeleon 7.1, you will see that also there you have the possibility to select that all windows be locked after a certain time of unuse
so you are requested to enter the password, but you need to do it for every window in empower. you need to do it only once for chromeleon. so why not in empower?

Since many years, Empower provides the Quick-Start Interface with single-window control. Using this Interface, you must only once enter your password. Only for traditional users the old-fashioned Pro-Interface is also implemented, where every window ist a separate Empower-Application and needs a password after the time-out for every single "window".

benw
and the one window interface is a nice copy from chromeleon

??? Maybe I missunderstand you, since Empower is working with a one-window interface since many years. This one-window interface (like in Empower) was implemented in Chromeleon with version 7 the first time (for chromeleon). The interface of Chromeleon 6.8 have only one main-Window and several subordinated windows.
It seems that the new Chromeleon 7.1 interface is a nice copy from Empower or Microsoft.

[unmgvar]

I think the important part is:
Can Waters please fix that bug finally for the multiple window? who cares that they have another interface capability. fix the bug

[DR]

I think the important part is:
Can Waters please fix that bug finally for the multiple window? who cares that they have another interface capability. fix the bug

I do not have that bug - build 2154, SP/FR 3/D.

[Vlad Orlovsky]

We ended up hiring two java programmers who are creating our own version of "Chemstation" Interface is almost completed and people are working in linking each piece (pump, autosampler, detector)

[unmgvar]

we do DR

[DR]

we do DR

That may be a function of network policy or a glitch in your citrix server environment (assuming you're running c/s via Citrix). We've never had that problem and there is no switch for that in Empower's policy dialog boxes. Hope you work that out - sounds like a pain in the rear.

[unmgvar]

DR,
we have had it in millenium stand alone
in empower stand alone.
when we were client server without citirx and as well that we are citirix now.
never went out
it was from the beginning until now
it has never been fixed.
waters wanting to help solve. big fat zero. from day 1.

[samani]

Dear scothorn
I have problem when I run sequence,
it run the first injection and stop, the second one can't run after
should I make something in event table or it does not need
please help