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Macros MSD Chemstation

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:47 pm
by Henrylozano
Hello good morning, good afternoon to some people and good night to other people.

I have noticed in this forum there are still many chromatographers who still use the MSD Chemstation although Masshunter already exists. As a survey My question is: Do you think it is a lost effort to study how to make macros in MSD Chemstation?

Re: Macros MSD Chemstation

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:45 pm
by James_Ball
Henrylozano wrote:
Hello good morning, good afternoon to some people and good night to other people.

I have noticed in this forum there are still many chromatographers who still use the MSD Chemstation although Masshunter already exists. As a survey My question is: Do you think it is a lost effort to study how to make macros in MSD Chemstation?


There are still quite a few 5971/72/73/75 units out there in operation that are probably all still using MSDChemstation, so it may still be useful. I haven't looked to see if there are any macros to be used in Mass Hunter yet, but I would much prefer MSDChemstation to Mass Hunter for data analysis. MH might be good for a research project, but for routine analysis with large analyte lists ( like EPA 8270 or 8260) it is very cumbersome to use.

Re: Macros MSD Chemstation

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:56 pm
by Henrylozano
James_Ball wrote:
Henrylozano wrote:
Hello good morning, good afternoon to some people and good night to other people.

I have noticed in this forum there are still many chromatographers who still use the MSD Chemstation although Masshunter already exists. As a survey My question is: Do you think it is a lost effort to study how to make macros in MSD Chemstation?


There are still quite a few 5971/72/73/75 units out there in operation that are probably all still using MSDChemstation, so it may still be useful. I haven't looked to see if there are any macros to be used in Mass Hunter yet, but I would much prefer MSDChemstation to Mass Hunter for data analysis. MH might be good for a research project, but for routine analysis with large analyte lists ( like EPA 8270 or 8260) it is very cumbersome to use.



Hi James, how nice to read you, I tell you, I also worked as a field support engineer for the Agilent representative brand in my country. In addition to the macro book found on the web, do you consider that another book for macros is required?

Re: Macros MSD Chemstation

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:31 pm
by James_Ball
Henrylozano wrote:
James_Ball wrote:
Henrylozano wrote:
Hello good morning, good afternoon to some people and good night to other people.

I have noticed in this forum there are still many chromatographers who still use the MSD Chemstation although Masshunter already exists. As a survey My question is: Do you think it is a lost effort to study how to make macros in MSD Chemstation?


There are still quite a few 5971/72/73/75 units out there in operation that are probably all still using MSDChemstation, so it may still be useful. I haven't looked to see if there are any macros to be used in Mass Hunter yet, but I would much prefer MSDChemstation to Mass Hunter for data analysis. MH might be good for a research project, but for routine analysis with large analyte lists ( like EPA 8270 or 8260) it is very cumbersome to use.



Hi James, how nice to read you, I tell you, I also worked as a field support engineer for the Agilent representative brand in my country. In addition to the macro book found on the web, do you consider that another book for macros is required?


I have never seen another book on the macros. I know at one time Agilent offered a class on the macro programming so maybe there were some Agilent reference books for that class, but I don't know how to get one. Possibly someone here has taken the class and has other material they can share.

Re: Macros MSD Chemstation

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2019 2:42 pm
by KM-USA
I was, and still am a "computer idiot". However, I was able to make some data analysis macros for our 5971 software to provide Retention Index in place of CAS number when doing automated search of our TIC peaks. We had previously made our own specialized fragrance library (took over a year) and had entered in retention index data for each known.

I first made a copy of the original macro using a different name, then adjusted what lines I needed, and then copied that in with the original file name, and tried to see if it worked.

I think someone in a different department who was better at computer helped us with a macro to list all the data in our custom library either by Entry Number or by alphabetic order.

No, I never took the HP Macro training class, would've been over my head. But there was an HP booklet on writing macros, so at that time it was somewhat expected that some would write macros. I think as cGMP became more involved, that some of this was way more difficult and complicated.

Re: Macros MSD Chemstation

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:08 am
by Henrylozano
KM-USA wrote:
I was, and still am a "computer idiot". However, I was able to make some data analysis macros for our 5971 software to provide Retention Index in place of CAS number when doing automated search of our TIC peaks. We had previously made our own specialized fragrance library (took over a year) and had entered in retention index data for each known.

I first made a copy of the original macro using a different name, then adjusted what lines I needed, and then copied that in with the original file name, and tried to see if it worked.

I think someone in a different department who was better at computer helped us with a macro to list all the data in our custom library either by Entry Number or by alphabetic order.

No, I never took the HP Macro training class, would've been over my head. But there was an HP booklet on writing macros, so at that time it was somewhat expected that some would write macros. I think as cGMP became more involved, that some of this was way more difficult and complicated.



So do you think that is very difficult?

Re: Macros MSD Chemstation

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:15 pm
by KM-USA
Henrylozano wrote:
So do you think that is very difficult?


Remember: learning what a mouse was and what Windows 286 was, with that 5971A software was difficult for me ! I had never heard of either before.

That Windows 286 had "MS-DOS Executive, before File Manager.