Help needed with HP 5890 Series II and 7673A Autosampler

[boulderco]

Hi, I work in a start up research lab and due to limited funds we have acquired an old HP 5890 with a 7673A autosampler. We have gotten the GC dialed in and working great for individual injections with a PeakSimple data system, but we would like to add the auto sampler. After researching how the controller communicates, it seems like we need a special cable to connect the GC to the ALS. (HP P/N: 18594-60570).
I found a pinout for this cable in the 7673 service manual, but I am unclear on where all the wires are supposed to go. There are several that are listed as the same color (brown) which is throwing me off. If anyone has a picture of one of these cables or has made one before that would be extremely helpful.
It seems like once this cable is connected properly the autosampler will be able to run in standalone mode, and each time it starts the GC ramp it would trigger another run in PeakSimple.

Please let me know if there are any photos or diagrams or additional information I could provide.

TL;DR: Want to connect HP 5890 Series II and 7673A Autosampler, seems to need special cable and I am having trouble with the pin-out while trying to make one.

Thank you so much in advance for any help you can offer, I'm new to the community and hoping to be able to give back some day soon.

It would be a huge step for our lab to get this autosampler working, and I love keeping old equipment out of the landfill.

[MSCHemist]

I believe that is the remote start cable it goes from the G1512A ALS controller box to the top right of the 5890GC. It basically send the signal to start the GC because the injection was made.

https://www.restek.com/globalassets/pim ... 03-011.pdf

https://www.aimanalytical.com/Manuals/5 ... outs-S.pdf

Here is one for sale on Ebay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/393055920592?c ... CYQAvD_BwE

[James_Ball]

Is the remote start all that is needed or will it need the HP-IL cable also?

Just wondering because need to know how the autosampler will know what vials to inject.

[MSCHemist]

Indeed my cabling is as follows


PC to GC:HPIB cable
G1512A ALS controller: HPIB cable to top of other HPIB cable attached to GC.
And remote cable to top of 5890.

Not sure about Inet. I have never used it.

[boulderco]

I believe that is the remote start cable it goes from the G1512A ALS controller box to the top right of the 5890GC. It basically send the signal to start the GC because the injection was made.

https://www.restek.com/globalassets/pim ... 03-011.pdf

https://www.aimanalytical.com/Manuals/5 ... outs-S.pdf

Here is one for sale on Ebay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/393055920592?c ... CYQAvD_BwE

You are right it is the remote cable, but that listing in eBay has a serial port on one end. I need to connect the instruments with the same 12 pin (if I’m remembering correctly) connector and there are specific specs, I already tried connecting all of the pins straight through

[MSCHemist]

What controller box do you have for that autosampler. The g1512a uses an apg remote cable which is small trapezoidal like a serial port on the box end (the cable is male) and rectangular with female for the pins on the GC port.

The large trapezoid is for gpib and there is an rs232 for a 6890gc connection (cable is female).

here is a pic of the back of it. The remote goes in APG by the green tape.

[James_Ball]

Indeed my cabling is as follows


PC to GC:HPIB cable
G1512A ALS controller: HPIB cable to top of other HPIB cable attached to GC.
And remote cable to top of 5890.

Not sure about Inet. I have never used it.

Inet was used if using an integrator to run the system. It was dual two wire cables, they connected on the top right of the GC under the cover, the back of the integrator and the back of the autosampler controller box. It would be the older controller boxes, as the one in the photo here doesn't have those connections. It had to make a complete loop, cable from integrator to GC, cable from GC to Autosampler, then cable from Autosampler to integrator.

[antonk]

Once we have with our UniChrom
https://www.unichrom.com/hpx890/hpx890e.shtml
implemented such a funny configuration

PC <-> HPIB <--> GC <====> HPIL <===> 7673

And it worked.
No APG-remote cable.



What I learned from the mess that HPIL is just a special physical level which carries same commands as HPIB

[James_Ball]

Once we have with our UniChrom
https://www.unichrom.com/hpx890/hpx890e.shtml
implemented such a funny configuration

PC <-> HPIB <--> GC <====> HPIL <===> 7673

And it worked.
No APG-remote cable.



What I learned from the mess that HPIL is just a special physical level which carries same commands as HPIB

Correct, it is just serial while HPIB is parallel.