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I am discussing the use with our QC/QA guy and take the stance that calibration is not needed.
How do you folks deal with this issue?
Thanks
Bear
Discussions about sample preparation: extraction, cleanup, derivatization, etc.
Andersan wrote:
One of my test sample is viscous, I need 1 mL, 2 mL, 5 mL, 10 mL and 25 mL TO CONTAIN pipette, I have not found any vendor locally, do you any international brand for these pipettes?
Steve Reimer wrote:
Do you check the dispensed volume with a calibrated or class A volumetric? If so, you may be OK.
We have several prep methods that use this and QA is fine with it.
Yes, we are NELAC (TNI) certified.
Steve Reimer wrote:
Weighing a 1 mL volume of a volatile solvent (DCM or methanol) in a fume hood is not as quick as dispensing to a 1 mL vol flask.
Bigbear wrote:
Guess we will just clean out the re pipets and check them with water/mass quarterly!
James_Ball wrote:
I am ok with traceability, but I am afraid one day there will be auditors asking for the lot number of the toilet paper used to "maintain" the analysts the perform the tests.
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I can see testing disposable tip repipettors by weighing with water. I do this each day that I use any particular repipettor at its volume or setting.James_Ball wrote:Bigbear wrote:
Guess we will just clean out the re pipets and check them with water/mass quarterly!
This is what we implemented to satisfy NELAC auditors. It is a pain to flush out bottle top dispensers with water, dispense and weigh water, then switch them back to solvent, but it was the only way to avoid repeat findings It is not so bad for the Eppendorf/Rainin repeating pipettes though. For most of those we do the check daily then send them off once a year for recalibration, which to me makes no sense since they are still passing the calibration checks.
We also have to send the NIST certified weights off once a year to have them recertified so that we can continue to use them to check balance calibrations before we check the pipettor calibrations.
I am ok with traceability, but I am afraid one day there will be auditors asking for the lot number of the toilet paper used to "maintain" the analysts the perform the tests.
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