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So we purchased a column that was inappropriate for our purposes but we are such a small lab our budget is essentially shot. I am finding a column on eBay that is brand new/sealed packaging but it is 10+ years old. It is a Waters Amino (NH2) Column. I think we could sneak this into our budget but what are the chances this thing is useless at this point? Has anyone had luck running very old columns?

Thanks for the input!
Oldest column I have run is probably 5-6 years in storage, popped it on the system and conditioned as per our usual procedures and was absolutely fine for another year or so of heavy analysis. I would say that if it's unopened and not been abused in a lab for the last 10 years you would be fine but unfortunately the only way to know for certain is to buy the column and run some kind of system suitability test on it.
Nowhere in any of the waters literature I can find says columns have a lifetime expiry so fingers crossed.
Out of interest what was wrong with the column you bought? Can you do some method conversion to make it suitable?

Good luck and all the best,
Chromavore
Oldest column I have run is probably 5-6 years in storage, popped it on the system and conditioned as per our usual procedures and was absolutely fine for another year or so of heavy analysis. I would say that if it's unopened and not been abused in a lab for the last 10 years you would be fine but unfortunately the only way to know for certain is to buy the column and run some kind of system suitability test on it.
Nowhere in any of the waters literature I can find says columns have a lifetime expiry so fingers crossed.
Out of interest what was wrong with the column you bought? Can you do some method conversion to make it suitable?

Good luck and all the best,
Chromavore
You can check out my previous thread on this forum. I bought a calcium column for carbohydrate analysis but it will not separate sucrose/lactose/maltose as separate peaks as our client is wishing. I had used that column many years ago during corn syrup analysis and I just had never dealt with sucrose/lactose to know this was a problem with the column. I talked to BioRad the maker of the column and they confirmed this was the case. I am not sure what could be done to achieve it with this column
I am finding a column on eBay that is brand new/sealed packaging but it is 10+ years old. It is a Waters Amino (NH2) Column.
Call Waters and inquire.

I think we could sneak this into our budget
I was so fortunate that my employer/department had a big-enough budget for stuff like this.
Hi Deppizzymo,

To echo what everyone else is saying, the column should be completely fine if stored under the correct conditions and un-used/clean. However, before you purchase a column, in your case I think it is more necessary to find an established method. From your previous post, I would look up a USP method on the sugars you're going to analyze and then mimic the separation, methods, hardware of that of the established method. For the most part, all you need to pay attention to it the exact dimensions and specifications of the used column and their running conditions (mobile-phases, temperature, buffers, etc.) and apply that to your system/software.

In fact, on most of the manufactures' websites you can look through their application notes and almost instantly find what you're looking for in prior customer's experiences. I recall from your prior post that you are doing a particular analysis for a single customer, and I may remember it having to do with apples (I may be crazy and wrong from searching through application notes). But, you could look up carbohydrates in foods, in apples, etc. and find a method on, for example, Water's website. From there you can start to look for columns, running buffers, detection methods, etc.

I hope this provides some help! I was looking quickly for methods with an amine column, but most of the methods and application notes are for their amide or carbohydrate analysis columns.

Tyler Smith
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